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Ramos, Dragon Engine
Legendary Artifact Creature — Dragon
Whenever you cast a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Ramos, Dragon Engine for each of that spell's colors.
Remove five +1/+1 counters from Ramos: Add WWUUBBRRGG to your mana pool. Activate this ability only once each turn.
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Ramos, Dragon Engine Discussion
2 days ago
Either of these would fit the theme of your deck better and would assist you in casting and running the deck.
Altar of the Brood - Doesn't fit what you're doing and doesn't assist in your goal
Ghostfire Blade - Not good enough. You're running Eldrazi. They're big enough and powerful enough to take care of themselves
Mycosynth Lattice - This doesn't help you. Most of your stuff is colorless so this only helps your opponents cast spells and places a glaring weakness that a card like Vandalblast can easily exploit.
Bonds of Mortality - You're running annihilator and massive creatures. You're rarely worried about the occasional hexproof creature, and you shouldn't have an issue with the occasional enchantment or artifact. Eldrazi overwhelm. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Prismatic Omen - This doesn't help you enough. Most of your stuff is colorless so this doesn't do a crazy amount for you. In addition, you're running Chromatic Lantern which will do this and also produces mana on top of it.
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver - Why? This has nothing to do with your deck
Despark - There are better removal options, but as an eldrazi tribal deck you'd be better off playing cards that protect and accelerate you rather than this.
Wear / Tear - While decent, you don't usually need to hit both at once and it's multiple colors. I'd run Naturalize or Krosan Grip instead.
Fathom Feeder - ...No. Just no.
Mist Intruder - While this and Fathom Feeder are both eldrazi, just because you're running a tribal deck doesn't mean you have to run every tribal card, nor only tribal cards. Cut this and see my suggestions for cards to replace it with.
Khenra Charioteer - There are better alternatives
Vile Aggregate - You're running eldrazi. You're going tall rather than wide so you're unlikely to ever really have enough creatures out at once to really make this card worth running.
Bojuka Bog - Not worth it. It comes out tapped and unless someone is both running a graveyard deck and has enough good cards in it at the same time, you're not going to get enough value out of this, or if you want to save it for that, then you have a dead land in hand and there would be far better cards like Rest in Peace and such.
Gateway Plaza - Comes in tapped, costs an additional mana to play, and only gives one mana. Too slow and not good enough.
Ruins of Oran-Rief - You're running Eldrazi. You really don't need one more +1/+1. A colored mana would assist you more here as it would also help you pay for and colored spells you would like to cast.
Akroma's Memorial - This is a fantastic card that in your deck would be a win con. I would recommend running this over Eldrazi Monument as it does a lot more and doesn't force you to sacrifice your important eldrazi.
Privileged Position - An absolutely amazing card that I run in every deck that can run it. Full protection on ALL your permanents.
Sterling Grove - Protection for all your enchantments and allows you to fetch any that you need.
Krosan Grip - Guaranteed removal on artifacts or enchantments.
Ramos, Dragon Engine - You're running a five colored big boy deck. This enables it and since it's colorless it'll be relatively easy for you to cast.
Archetype of Endurance - Fantastic protection and a powerful creature to run. As a plus it fulfills some of the same roles as the cards you ran that removed hexproof.
Archetype of Aggression - Replaces your Khenra Charioteer as a much better, single color, alternative.
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - Great card draw, annihilator, reshuffles your graveyard which prevents mill and keeps your deck running even after a board wipe, and a giant eldrazi god, all built into one card.
Kozilek, the Great Distortion - Card draw, counter protection, and a menacing eldrazi god. Who could ask for more?
Emrakul, the Promised End - Reduced costs, protection, flying, trample, steals a turn, and an eldrazi god. Nuff said.
Temur Ascendancy - Replaces or in addition to Fervor . Haste plus card draw and your creatures are almost all going to trigger it.
Demonic Tutor - Fantastic fetch card.
Vampiric Tutor - Fantastic fetch card.
Harsh Mercy - Tribal board wipe
Explosive Vegetation - Land fetch
Skyshroud Claim - Land fetch that comes in untapped. If you upgrade your landbase to include cards like Breeding Pool (see recommendations lower), you can use this and cards like Nature's Lore to fetch them and bring them in untapped.
Patriarch's Bidding - Full board wipe recovery, and/or a kill card if you have a haste enabler on the board.
Heroic Intervention - Top Tier instant speed protection.
Teferi's Protection - Top Tier instant speed protection
Cyclonic Rift - One of the best board wipes in the game. Cannot be protected against, reset's their entire board, and leaves you in a fantastic position.
Enlightened Tutor - Artifact/Enchantment Fetch
Worldly Tutor - Creature Fetch
Mystical Tutor - Instant/Sorcery Fetch
Urza's Incubator - Eldrazi cost reduction
Descendants' Path - Free Eldrazi casts
Rhystic Study - Fantastic card draw
Bloom Tender - In a 5-color deck this card is amazing ramp.
Birds of Paradise - Any color ramp for 1
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon - Does this require explanation in a colorless deck?
Beast Within - Destroys any permanent. This is a fantastic card to run as a mere 3/3 beast shouldn't bother you, and even if it would, it's likely far better than what they previously had.
Chaos Warp - Removes any permanent. Can be used on your own stuff to pull a new permanent out of your deck if needed. Bypasses indestructible.
See the Unwritten - Need I say more?
Tooth and Nail - Need I say more?
Exploration - Amazing ramp. Accelerates your turns
Burgeoning - See Exploration
Mana Reflection - The best mana doubler, bar none.
Zendikar Resurgent - Mana doubler plus card draw
Smothering Tithe - One of the best ramp cards
Oracle of Mul Daya - Fantastic acceleration. Combines with other accelerators such as Exploration and Burgeoning as they can now play lands off the top of your library as well.
Second Sunrise - Full boardwipe recovery
Defense of the Heart - Easy free creature drops
Mirari's Wake - Mana doubler plus anthem
Faith's Reward - Full, personal, boardwipe recovery
Seedborn Muse - One of the best cards you can run, bar none.
Commander's Sphere - 3 drop mana rock that can tap for all colors. Replaces your banners (ex. Vanquisher's Banner )
Darksteel Ingot - 3 drop indestructible mana rock that can tap for all colors. Replaces your banners (ex. Vanquisher's Banner )
Recommended Land Additions/Swaps:
Cavern of Souls
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Mana coverage, allows your fetch and colorless lands to tap for colored if they need
Cabal Coffers - Combines with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to generates metric butt tons of mana
Fetch lands and shock lands are fantastic upgrades to your deck. Fetch lands let you pull the exact lands you need and let them come in untapped, and shock lands can both be fetched because they say the actual land type (ex. Breeding Pool is a Forest Island), and can come in untapped or tapped depending on what you need. Coming in untapped and generating multiple colors gives a distinct advantage over mono-colored lands and lands that must come in tapped.
Eldrazi Monument - Hurts you too much and doesn't generate enough benefit. If you can't get a weak creature out in time, or don't have one available, you'll either have a dead card in hand that you don't want to cast, or one that hurts you badly. If you want indestructible, look at cards like Boros Charm or Heroic Intervention .
From Beyond - Too slow and doesn't do enough.
A tribal deck isn't limited to only cards of its tribe, but rather is mostly one tribe and has several cards that accelerate and power up the tribe. Hence my recommendation is that you cut a few of the weaker cards that are unnecessary and instead run a few non-tribal cards that strengthen, accelerate, and assist your deck.
6 days ago
Interesting... I think I see what you’re going for. I’m wondering what your actual win-con would be though. You’ve got a lot of ways to build mana and bring out the big bois but I don’t see what you plan on doing with them. Blightsteel Colossus is your only real “killer” here and he’s not as all-powerful as one likes to believe.
Personally, I think a great win-con this deck would be perfect for Door to Nothingness ! Take out your 2x Teeka's Dragon (not a very good card anyway) and replace them with Ramos, Dragon Engine . Also drop out your Temple of the False God and get a few City of Brass to help with generate the 5 colors. You could even splash in some straight green mana (and maybe a few Copper Myr as well) just to to run Channel the Suns .
I like what you’re doing, but there’s a lot more you could still do. Great potential though!
2 weeks ago
Falkenstein Ah you must be new to commander! In commander all the color symbols on the card determine the cards commander identity. An example is Ramos, Dragon Engine being 5 colors and Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest a red-white-blue commander.
3 weeks ago
Jace, Wielder of Mysteries wins off of infinite +1's as well, and is much easier to tutor for with Sisay than Ugin. Then again, it's a four-piece combo, two of which the commander doesn't even tutor for; it's nice in terms of actually using the new cards, but I generally think the "archetype" can win in easier ways.
Definitely agree that Sisay wants to be built around though; things like Oath of Kaya , Oath of Ajani , and even some of the more combat oriented walkers that can straight up raise her power become a lot better with her at the helm.
4 weeks ago
Fist of Suns doesn't cheat out creatures for 0. Fist of Suns replaces what you can pay, not the CMC. Morophos effects the CMC.
28 land is way too little. Bane of Progress , Planar Cleansing and cards that remove artifacts destroy your game. Reliquary Tower , Ash Barrens , Unclaimed Territory , Haven of the Spirit Dragon , Path of Ancestry are all land that should be in the deck.
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma fits the theme, and gives all the dragons that don't have it trample
You need removal. Vindicate removes the Propaganda that destroys your swinging. Crackling Doom removes the opponents biggest creature. Assassin's Trophy and/or Putrefy removes a endless-combo piece. Swords to Plowshares removes indestructible. Removal is crucial to advancing your own game.
Temur Ascendancy is a card that helps you draw more, and the haste on dragons is amazing
Taigam, Ojutai Master is my last consideration. Makes sure your dragons hit the battlefield.
1 month ago
I noticed that my initial list lacked some ramp. Some cards also underperformed, so here's the changes:
Camaraderie replaces Gelatinous Genesis - I found Genesis to be a massive win more and conditional card. It gets really good IF you manage to get a lot of exp counters and put Mizzix on the table. Camaraderie is a solid card that does a lot of stuff this deck wants to achieve.
Kiora's Follower replaces Incubation Druid - Despite +1/+1 counters subtheme, I found that it's actually pretty hard to put them on Druid. I also thought it can give mana of any color. Follower is similiar to Druid, but is fetchable, can untap Gates or Deathrite Shaman when I need them or give pseudo-vigilance to creatures.
Jhoira of the Ghitu replaces Nin, the Pain Artist - I put Nin as a cheap multicolored card that can be also valuable later. But the value than Nin provides is quite expensive, and using it as removal is even worse. Old Jhoira is also cheap and cheating stuff for low cost is always great.
1 month ago
ZendikariWol Niv-Mizzet Reborn is actually pretty meh for Superfriends. He's definitely card advantage but he's likely to only hit 1-2 cards in edh and misses quite a few of the walkers. As well, Jodah, Archmage Eternal makes the expensive walkers cheaper, he's easier to cast and has a nice body. I cast him quite often and he is very much worth it. I believe him and Ramos, Dragon Engine are the best five-color superfriends commanders.
2 months ago
need a good Ramos, Dragon Engine competitive list :C
Ramos, Dragon Engine occurrence in decks from the last year
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