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Haunting Hymn
Instant
Target player discards two cards. If you played this spell during your main phase, that player discards four cards instead.
Juuluk on Deathkeeper, shaman spellcaster- looking for …
3 years ago
Decklist: Sek'Kuar, Shamankeeper
Hello everyone, this is my first post. I'm looking for some advice on a few of my combos in my Sek'kuar the deathkeeper edh deck. It's my first edh deck and the first time i've built singleton as well, so i hope to gain some insight from some more experienced deckbuilders.
First of all, it's shaman tribal, and i have most of my creature slots handled. My main combo in the deck is Mortuary coupled with Verdant Succession. Together, those two can get me infinite if I have my commander or Judith, the Scourge Diva and any green creature if it sacs itself, which shamans are good at. I think this one is solid, but i'd like a second opinion if anyone can see a flaw i can't.
That's my main win combo, but i have a blow your top off style combo for the win as well. This one i'm mainly focused on instants and sorceries being in my graveyard. It involves Finale of Promise and a Shaman's Trance, as well as two valid targets in my graveyard to cast, or yours. This one i'm more concerned about, and I'm juggling several spells to include. Right now I have Sins of the Past and Decree of Pain as well as Searing Wind and Haunting Hymn in the instants pile. Also considering Worst Fears and Wit's End.
The idea with this is to either use an emergence zone to do it on my opponents turn or to do it on my main phase, thats why I thought the hymn would be good. The Sins of the Past is a questionable replacement for a Yawgmoth's Will, but if I copy it with the finale, I could target multiple spells in everyone's graveyard with it, correct? Idk though, it feels janky. If anyone has some streamlining suggestions for either win condition I'd really appreciate it, thanks.
Also: whenever I try to link my commanders card it pops up with decklists. He gives 3/1 graveborn tokens with haste when nontoken creatures die in case anyone doesn't know. Hence why the Mortuary combo would be so effective, since they can't really stop all the sac triggers. At least, i dont think it can be interfered with really. I'm just getting back into magic after a four or five year break, so sorry if I seem especially dumb rn.
Idoneity on
Tinybones the card thief
3 years ago
Ah, I have piloted a mono-black discard deck for quite the number of years. I have Chainer, Dementia Master
at the helm myself, as he is a rather powerful card when everyone's hands are empty, thus he reigns unanswered. Therefrom, a great amount of methods may be used to win.
Tinybones is less of a finisher itself, more so a value engine. As such, I would recommend possessing a lower curve to take advantage of the card draw and more potent finishers within the deck to hent for victory. Also, having card draw outside of the commander would grant a better backup plan. A discard deck's goal is to empty each opponent's hand and win by going unthreatened. If no players have cards to discard, Tinybones cannot provide draw.
The changes I would make are more instants so you kill things once they resolve as opposed to waiting a full turn, swifter discard in the early game to make your commander more effective, stronger finishers for the sake of ending the game betime, and just cutting some cards.
So, first, there are some things I would remove.
- Murderous Compulsion may go with the discard theme, but it's conditional removal at sorcery-speed.
- Bad Deal is ironically a bad deal, as it is six mana for two cards gone.
- Assassin's Strike is just egregious. A six-mana sorcery to kill one thing and they discard but one card. Begone.
- Unnerve is fine but not great. Being a one time effect at four mana, I dislike it, though Xantcha is a great character in the art.
- Haunting Hymn is six mana, which is far too late for discard effects to be effective. You want discard early, as it makes it far more difficult for decks to catch their footing.
- I have the same reason for Tasigur's Cruelty.
- Cabal Conditioning has an identical reason.
- I have a shortlist for this category, being creatures without long-game value; Burglar Rat, Liliana's Reaver, and Banshee of the Dread Choir have discard stapled to them, but don't do much else whilst lacking much in terms of evasion for Larceny.
- Scythe Specter is slow and other cards just do its job better, and Herald of Anguish is slow and lacks fodder for its second ability.
- Necrogen Spellbomb is just crap. Two mana for one card from a single player's hand is awful. Don't play this.
- Awaken the Erstwhile neglects the game plan of having more cards than your opponents whilst lacking the option of going back. I'd just add a stronger finisher.
Alright. With that out of the way, I may suggest other cards.
So, early game discard. Mind Rake and Delirium Skeins are each great, for they take card from every player in the first few turns of the game.
Let's add some better kill spells: Snuff Out, Victim of Night, Go for the Throat, Hero's Downfall, Drag to the Underworld, and Murderous Rider.
Wraths are a cruciality for slower strategies such as this, for aggressive strategies such as Alesha or Tymna. You should add any of Massacre Girl, Damnation, or Massacre Wurm.
Upon card draw, you have none outside of the Trinket Thief, Rankle, and Geth's Grimoire. I'd add any of Phyrexian Arena, Sign in Blood, Underworld Connections, and Dread Presence. Necropotence may seem as if it negates the strategy, but it is always worth it.
Lightning Greaves just seem great.
Dark Ritual and Cabal Ritual allow for turn one Pit or Mists, easily providing much value with your commander on turn two.
Expedition Map allows you to assemble your land combos with Cabal Coffers and Urborg. Always nice.
Nirkana Revenant is an option for the sake of late-game ramp, giving much for Torment of Hailfire.
Now, for the finishers I have many. Do note that these are meant to be played when people haven't any cards in hand, hence lacking answers for these once on the field. Sheoldred, the Whispering One grants value from each player's bin whiles eating at their board. Abhorrent Overlord offers a swarm of flyers to end the game. Grave Titan is much the same. Archfiend of Despair goes well with Tinybones's second ability. Though I am not too fond of it, Archfiend of Spite offers much. Geth, Lord of the Vault hents the opponent's graveyards to swarm the board. Kokusho, the Evening Star is a massive threat that harms upon death. Kothophed allows for a quite a bit of card draw. Lord of the Void is always fun. Lastly, Gray Merchant of Asphodel does so much every time it hits the field.
Of course, I'd add more ramp and reanimation. Mind Stone, Arcane Signet, Charcoal Diamond, and Lake of the Dead are great for ramp. Animate Dead, Reanimate, and Dread Return are fine ways to get stuff from anyone's yard, save for the Return.
That shall be all from me. Do enjoy your day!
triproberts12 on
Toshiro's Samurai Guide - Harikiri Those Instants!
4 years ago
While Toshi does give card advantage, powerful stand-alone card-draw spells are still important. I really like Skeletal Scrying and Moonlight Bargain for being instants, here. Also, I think some instant-based protection like Boon of Erebos , Abnormal Endurance , Butcher's Glee , or Dark Dabbling would be good. Finally, I'd recommend Victory Chimes , Isochron Scepter , Runechanter's Pike , Spellbinder , Sentinel Tower , Mirari , Haunting Hymn , and Aphotic Wisps as good synergy cards for a black instant deck.
Lost_Ascendant on Looking for instant cast card …
6 years ago
and really overcosted but Haunting Hymn
Instant speed discard is a heavily unrepresented typing due to its power.