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Geth's Grimoire Discussion
1 day ago
So, I don't know why I didn't think about this till now, but Mogis actually presents a problem with Xantcha. The same could be said of Tainted AEther. Here are some cards I think would be interesting:
Visions of Brutality, Vampiric Link, Treacherous Link, Disrupt Decorum, Rakdos Signet, Bazaar Trader, Uncaged Fury, Temur Battle Rage, Psychotic Fury, Latulla's Orders, Havoc Festival?, Vandalblast, Everlasting Torment, Geth's Grimoire, Dreadbore.
3 days ago
I'd run Blasphemous Act over Damnation, and possibly Personal Tutor as an additional tutoring source to find wheels. Chasm Skulker seems slow here compared to the rest of the deck, and would probably be my first cut.
Hope this helps! :)
1 week ago
Khorvath's Fury, Windfall, Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not, Painful Quandary, Torment of Hailfire, Jace's Archivist, Perplex, Decree of Pain, Blasphemous Act, Reforge the Soul, Pain Magnification, Lavaborn Muse, Hollow Specter, Hellfire Mongrel, Pull from Tomorrow, Wheel of Fate, Rise of the Dark Realms, Words of Waste, Oppression.
2 weeks ago
Liliana of the Veil is usually considered the budgetless version of Necrogen mists, but it’s also a pretty big target. I’m not sure how competitive Geth's Grimoire is but drawing off everyone’s discard is always nice.
I’m also noticing Mike and Trike as a wincon. If you wanted a more on theme win (permanent destruction) maybe try The Gitrog Monster, with Dakmor Salvage and Skirge Familiar. And maybe incorporate some extra lands for turn spells like Exploration?
Tendershoot’s here for token-fodder, I’m guessing? You could also use Sadistic Hypnotist for more discards.
I’d also replace Zhur-ta Druid with Birds of Paradise
3 weeks ago
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I hope this is all helpful for you! :)
Using red, you have access to many of the overlooked cards in the mental game of magic. Avarice Totem, Custody Battle and Fractured Loyalty can become game changers in and of themselves. Avarice Totem with Pithing Needle can be quite fun.
I think that Jinxed Choker deserves a spot here, and that you could consider some additional hidden gems such as Vampiric Spirit or Basilisk Collar in here with some of your "passive pingers" such as Harsh Mentor, Xantcha, Sleeper Agent or even Sleeper Agent herself, etc.
Some other great options would be cards that encourage your opponents to make bad decisions - I usually try to not beat the deck but the opponent in magic, so cards such as Pain's Reward and Choice of Damnations can be a house depending on how well you play the game and the opponent.
I would always include a Glacial Chasm with a way to fetch it.
I would confuse your opponent by being friendly with some cards such as Abyssal Persecutor and cards of the like.
You're not trying to help the other players win, you're owning your opponents without them realizing it.
You have access to Norin the Wary, that always sparks options...
You have access to political time bombs such as Impending Disaster being in Red.
No matter what you do, I would auto-include Claws of Gix, a Scroll Rack, and a Sensei's Divining Top, consider maybe some shadow cards - just type the word "Dauthi" into http://www.cardkingdom.com/ and see what comes up... that might lead to some ideas with equipment such as Explorer's Scope and/or Trepanation Blade (two cards that are incredibly underrated IMO)...
If you keep your dudes low in power, you could consider a Meekstone and an Icy Manipulator as a soft/old-school wall for yourself (though it would stop Xantcha from doing her work). If the Icy is there... there's always Winter Orb - who doesn't miss that?? :)
Lots of choices here...
Maybe stealing equipment would be a thing you'd enjoy... you know there's always "that guy" that runs "those cards" all the time... Red is all about that.
If you're feeling aggro-y, Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth seem strong.
If you can get your hands on it, Word of Command fits the flavor of this deck well...
Maybe you could include a Wish Board with Burning Wish or Death Wish... in fact, you could keep the weird political theme going with a suicide life swap build with that black tree: Tree of Perdition and/or Soul Conduit.
I'm just spouting off ideas - I plan to make a deck with her when I get some free time. :)
Very cool start here and again, I hope all of this is helpful to you!
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Gem of Becoming Geth's Grimoire Curiosity Grixis Panorama Crypt of the Eternals Torment of Hailfire Bloodchief Ascension Mindcrank Black Vise Forced Fruition Trinket Mage Trophy Mage Nevinyrral's Disk
2 months ago
Thank you all for the suggestions so far! I've taken a good many of these suggestions, and I can see this deck fleshing itself out more and more. Still need cards to remove to get to the legal 100 though
And yes, I agree with Thallion on the burn aspect of Liliana's Caress, Megrim, etc. At the very LEAST it's pairing with Nath who grants one discard at upkeep. I will gladly take 2 indirect damage per upkeep (With plenty of more room for discarding), and with a few of the combos in this deck, like Sadistic Hypnotist + Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and Geth's Grimoire + Words of Waste, you will not only be constantly clearing their hand full of answers, but dealing 2 or more damage for each card in the process. Then Quest for the Nihil Stone can come along to help finish the job.
I can agree it is not super fast in say a 1v1 setting where you're the only source of damage to that opponent, but in a standard 4-player game where players are also hurting eachother, I'd say these do some rather significant harm.
I also have to say I'm not necessarily excited about running Dark Deal but I will because it's just a sorcery? I feel like it kind of hurts the player too much to have them discarding as well, but for Dark Deal it is slightly more utility in that it can allow you to discard a bad hand and effectively mulligan in the midst of the game. And of course you make everyone else discard in the process.