question about creatures i take with Chainer, Dementia Master

Asked by abenz419 9 years ago

I have Chainer, Dementia Master in my Marchesa, the Black Rose EDH deck. If I use the Chainer's ability top put a creature into play from a graveyard it becomes a nightmare in addition to it's other types. Lets say that creature gains a +1/+1 counter and then dies. I know Marchesa's ability will return it under my control, but will it still be a nightmare from Chainer's ability or will the game see it as a new instance of the card? I'm just asking because I was wondering if it would still get exiled from Chainer leaving play if it had come back in this matter before that.

abenz419 says... #1

another question I have.... I don't want to start a 3rd question topic,... is with something like Clone . If Clone is entering the battlefield at the end of turn at the same time as another creature, can clone enter as a copy of that creature? I know they see each other entering at the same time but I wasn't sure when you specifically had to name what clone becomes a copy of.

August 18, 2014 8:50 p.m.

Devonin says... Accepted answer #2

It is a new object, and won't be a nightmare.

For reference, though, Chainer removes all nightmares from play, not JUST the ones brought back by him through his ability. So if the creature were already a nightmare or made into one through something like Conspiracy , it would get removed either way.

August 18, 2014 8:55 p.m.

Devonin says... #3

Clone enters the battlefield as something on the battlefield, which requires what you choose to already be on the battlefield as it enters, so you can't pick something else also coming back with it.

01/07/2012 If Clone somehow enters the battlefield at the same time as another creature, Clone can't become a copy of that creature. You may only choose a creature that's already on the battlefield.

As an aside though, you SHOULD make a new thread for an unrelated question. That way the thread exists to get individual attention and for other users to see that it has been answered if they have a similar question.

August 18, 2014 8:58 p.m.

abenz419 says... #4

ok i'll do that next time.. I had already asked another question about an interaction with the deck and then as soon as I posted this one I remembered another question that came up when testing it against my friends deck that I could have included with this one had I not posted already. I just didn't want to flood the Q&A with a bunch of questions specifically about different interactions within my deck.

August 18, 2014 9:49 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #5

So far all your questions have been about materially different things, so it would have been fine to have them as separate topics. Making more topics is only a problem if they're all basically asking the same question.

August 19, 2014 9:27 a.m.

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