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Great job! This deck looks fun. I know you are trying to keep the deck on a budget, but since you are running only demons, consider 2-4 Cavern of Souls to deal with counterspells. Also, consider more low-mana cost discard other than Blightning, like Inquisition of Kozilek or Thoughtseize. :)
June 17, 2018 11:18 p.m.
TKDbeast, to follow up, I've been running simulations with -3 Swamp, -4 Death Baron, +2 Polluted Delta, +1 Watery Grave, and +4 Diregraf Captain. It seems to run well, so it is really up to whether you prefer Death Baron or Diregraf Captain. The former makes all of your other zombies instant threats with deathtouch, while the latter itself has deathtouch and works better over time as your zombies die.
June 15, 2018 6:51 p.m.
I'm glad my comment was helpful TKDbeast! :) I've never seen Unclaimed Territory , but its essentially Cavern of Souls without the "cannot be countered" ability. For that reason I wouldn't run it over Cavern of Souls. If I cut white altogether, it will be much harder to deal with artifacts and enchantments and I'll have to rely on discard like Thoughtseize. If I were to run both the Caverns and the Territories it would double the odds of casting Diregraf Captain and other multicolored zombies, but it would also make it harder to cast non-creature spells.
It would be interesting to set up a giant combo with Gravecrawler + Diregraf Colossus + Wayward Servant + Nantuko Husk + Diregraf Captain! Hmm...Maybe I'll swap out the Death Barons for the Captains and stick in a Watery Grave or two. The Aether Vials may help as well. I'll think about it.
June 15, 2018 2:44 a.m.
Thanks again for your input cplvega0811! I will test Bontu's Last Reckoning and see how it goes, but like you I'm wary of tapping out for two turns. I hadn't considered Settle the Wreckage due to the WW mana in its cost and because it helps the opponent find lands. But I can see it being useful in a build with more white in the mana base.
June 14, 2018 7:39 p.m.
Thanks cplvega0811! I appreciate the suggestion. I didn't include Flaying Tendrils because I am worried about exiling my own creatures along with the opponents'. Exiling my creatures isn't fatal but it makes it hard to set up a Gravecrawler combo.
I have also thought about Bontu's Last Reckoning to deal with cards like Etched Champion, since the Aether Vials allow me to cast creatures without lands. The 4 mana for Damnation is hard to hit until the late game sometimes.
June 14, 2018 3:45 p.m.
Thanks for the suggestion Flooremoji, Liliana, the Last Hope is an awesome card and one of my favorites. Check out my deck TWIN LILIANA CONTROL (Mono-black Devotion), which features that Liliana and Liliana of the Veil.
In this deck, I didn't include any planeswalkers to maximize the usefulness of Aether Vial.
June 13, 2018 9:35 p.m.
TKDbeast, thank you for your detailed suggestions! I'm really happy that you like it :) I've tried to streamline it as much as possible.
The deck has several objectives - first, the goal is to generate as many zombies as possible in as little time as possible. Second, I've kept mana costs as low as possible so I can dump my entire hand within the first few turns and draw more cards with Blood Scrivener and Sign in Blood. Third, I want to get a combo going with Gravecrawler, Nantuko Husk, and other zombies if possible.
That's where the Aether Vials come in. They allow me to play additional zombies and dedicate my limited mana to reviving Gravecrawler if possible. The vials also help with Blood Moon, although I haven't gone up against a deck running it. That's something I need to consider more.
I chose Death Baron over other zombie lords because it gives my horde death touch for no additional activation cost, which makes every zombie an immediate threat. Other lords like Lord of the Undead require mana to activate their abilities and manipulate my graveyard. I don't want to bring zombies back from the graveyard except for Gravecrawler, because the more zombies in my graveyard, the bigger Diregraf Colossus becomes.
I've chosen to make the mana base as black-heavy as possible to improve the odds of starting with a black mana for Gravecrawler and Fatal Push. This is why I'm not running any Plains and I do not run Path to Exile - plus the latter helps the opponent too much, especially against ramp. Yes, Fatal Push definitely is more synergistic. Cavern of Souls helps against control and ensures that I can produce the white mana for zombies, so I'm not worried about additional white mana sources.
Regarding the sideboard, I chose Revoke Existence because it exiles the target and the deck is designed to spend mana on my turn and not my opponent's, so there is no incentive to run an instant like Disenchant. Withered Wretch is an old favorite of mine and it synergizes with Aether Vial. I want to target the opponent's graveyard and leave mine alone.
Other cards like Stillmoon Cavalier and Lifebane Zombie are too easy to kill at 1 toughness. Plus Stillmoon Cavalier consumes too much mana for this deck. I avoid expensive enchantments, planeswalkers, or non-zombies to maximize synergy. I have considered Plague Belcher due to its life-loss ability, but there is no room for it.
As far as blue cards go, I like Diregraf Captain, but I like white more as a splash color because of Tidehollow Sculler, which really helps against control, and I prefer having access to artifact and enchantment destruction.
Oops, I got a little carried away with this comment lol
June 13, 2018 5:59 p.m.
Thanks for the suggestion Chasmolinker! I want to like Relentless Dead, but its abilities are conditional upon it dying and require spending mana. The mana curve of this deck is so low that every mana counts. But I haven't tested Relentless Dead, so I'm just speculating.
June 11, 2018 9 p.m.
Sjorpha, thanks for the detailed response!! I definitely see your point about the 2/2 Leyline of the Void/Surgical Extraction split. I like Leyline because it only targets the opponent and it helps with devotion, so I'm going all in with 4 copies to increase my chances of starting with it.
June 10, 2018 2:58 p.m.
Thanks for the comment Sjorpha, interesting point. In your opinion what should I cut for Lingering Souls?
June 10, 2018 2:46 a.m.
June 10, 2018 2:34 a.m.
Thanks Saturn999!! :) I appreciate that. It's a lot of fun to play.
Thanks Gods_Shadow, I didn't know Arguel's Blood Fast existed! Very interesting card. I'm going to try to fit one in somehow and test it out.
June 8, 2018 7:24 p.m.
June 7, 2018 3:05 a.m.
DrkNinja, I took your advice and added Stony Silence to the sideboard, thanks. It seems too effective to pass up.
And thanks for the suggestions reptarjesus, but I think Arena is a little too slow in my meta, and I really want to hit that 4th black mana by turn four. I run into the same problem with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. I really like Gifted Aetherborn and Geralf's Messenger, but I'm going for more control in this build. I've traded creatures for removal and planeswalkers.
June 1, 2018 2:49 a.m.
Hi xPotatox! I like your build, it looks focused. You are light on removal, which may hurt your endgame. Also, I personally don't like Bojuka Bog because it comes into play tapped, which can really slow you down when you need that fourth black mana.
What is your experience with Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet? I'm going to test him out in my build and see how it goes.
May 29, 2018 6:43 p.m.
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