Backdraft Hellkite

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Leviathan Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2019 (C19) Rare

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Backdraft Hellkite

Creature — Dragon

Flying

Whenever Backdraft Hellkite attacks, each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost.

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Backdraft Hellkite Discussion

NeonEndymion on The Ur-Dragon

4 days ago

Great catch on Three Visits ; I usually don't mind seeing Farseek for the added flexibility in color fixing, but if you're going for efficiency, that's a good swap.

Conqueror's Flail and Abrupt Decay were cut simply due to needing to trim down anti-control tech/removal and staple it on to Dragons so I could bump up the number of draw spells/effect closer to 10.

As to Toxic Deluge vs Fire Covenant , I think given our dork package, Fire Covenant should be run first. Anguished Unmaking , Abrupt Decay , Despark , or Teferi's Protection would all be worth looking at over Toxic, depending on your meta. If you need another board wipe vs removal/protection, I'm still pretty high on Crux of Fate , Damnation , or Magmaquake —the latter if Planeswalkers are an issue for you.

In terms of power level/competitiveness, I'm still looking to optimize the deck, but have to make adjustments since the whole strategy/deck composition can't really put up a decent showing in cEDH pods (where most of your decklist needs to be comprised of tight or redundant 2 card win-cons, mana neutral or positive ramp, cantrips/card draw/card selection, and cheap interaction/stax effects . . . and blockers for Tymna, assuming you're not playing her in the first place).

As opposed to, y'know, 22 dragons (including the commander), one permission spell that interacts on the stack, and not being able to threaten wins reliably before turns 6-8, possibly turns 8-10.

So I was just finding that even though I had strong/fast starts, the deck lacked enough raw card draw to stay in longer games of attrition that a lot of optimzed to 75% pods end up becoming. Rishkar's Expertise should thus probably be a Windfall , but with the added big ramp from Faeburrow Elder , I've been able to cast The Ur-Dragon more reliably, and drawing ten w/ a free cast has been great.

And in terms of your decklist (our lists' cores are still rather quite close with just a few deviations!), I'd look to cut any two of these four—— Conqueror's Flail , Gruul Signet , Sarkhan the Mad , or Abrupt Decay --for Worldly Tutor and some kind of raw card draw effect/spell. But those are all just cards that I had found either too narrow/conditional and are meta-dependent.

Whatever the power level, if we're lacking anything at the moment it is probably graveyard hate . . . I had been running Rakdos Charm , but that of course can't take care of more than one recursion engine at the table. Yard engine/value decks (vs decks that include graveyard manipulation as part of a winning/linear line) don't pop up as frequently at higher-power or cEDH tables, except maybe Frog (which needs its commander to function more than its yard, arguably), where Deathrite Shaman or Noxious Revival can target an opponent's key yard piece can sometimes stop a win . . . maybe Rakdos Charm gets a bit better with both Noxious Revival and Backdraft Hellkite ? Leyline of the Void fits what I'm looking at perfectly but isn't quite main deck playable.

I'm also wondering whether/not the list should have some way to punch through more massive damage after a slower start/board wipe . . . Sylvia Brightspear or Xenagos, God of Revels ?

ThoAlmighty on Kykar Storm (budget)

1 month ago

Sweet deck! I think you could try Ignite Memories as another storm payoff, its not always reliable, but in EDH can usually kill much earlier than Grapeshot. Backdraft Hellkite might also be a consideration, even though its not as good as PiF. Also, Mind Unbound and the new The Magic Mirror might be good at helping you rebuild if you fizzle, though are on the slow side.

NeonEndymion on The Ur-Dragon

1 month ago

Sure thing!

And as to new cards, I don't see anything worthwhile outside of Backdraft Hellkite .

If we were to explore a more token-centric strategy, Full Flowering might be worth a look. And Sevinne's Reclamation looks generically good but kind of narrow here.

Vlasiax on The Ur-Dragon

1 month ago

Thanks for advice. I was already using Abrupt Decay and Assassin's Trophy just thought if it's correct to run 3cmc single target removal.

Also I'll probably use Fire Covenant instead of Toxic Deluge because I need 3cmc boardwipe and the former's price is an issue as with single reprint it might drop to more acceptable range so I've decided to pass on this one for a while. On the other hand Covenant also has a Dragon in it's artwork so it's a flavor win!

And I have somewhere laying around a spare copy of Eladamri's Call - thanks for reminding me of that :)

One more question - do you think we might get more cards from recent commander set other than Backdraft Hellkite ? I was wondering if there are some more cards worth including but I don't see anything valuable.

NeonEndymion on The Ur-Dragon

2 months ago

I'm kind of with you there:

-cut Scourge of the Throne

-add Backdraft Hellkite

Seems good.

And if we go in that direction, you probably don't need Fire Covenant ; that more depends on how many board wipes you feel you need, and which boardwipes are most effective in your meta (and whether/not you're running Balefire Dragon ).

On my list, I'm definitely swapping out Fellwar Stone for Arcane Signet , when it releases, and so far I've been happy with the Moxen over the 3CMC ramp, but for those kinds of hands, the deck might want to look at a Windfall , Wheel of Fortune , or Timetwister slot to refill your hand after a fast start/disrupt other kept hands. There have been times when I didn't have an extra land to ditch to Mox Diamond and/or an extra spell to exile to Chrome Mox , and having them be dead draws later is a real risk vs the fast start payoff.

Vlasiax on The Ur-Dragon

2 months ago

I recently think about cutting Scourge of the Throne since I still have proxy of him and more often than not I'm at the highest life total so it's just an expensive vanilla card. That's why I thought about recently spoiled Backdraft Hellkite .

Other cards that I think about cutting are Chromatic Lantern and Anguished Unmaking since they both cost 3 and don't provide that much value as they used to but currently I wonder what could be good enough in these spots. However, I might add Fire Covenant and then it might be an enabler for Scourge of the Throne to trigger extra combat.

Maybe I'll swap Chromatic Lantern for Chrome Mox - did you found this little artifact to be powerful enough ramp? Besides that there's Arcane Signet that will probably take place of Gruul Signet .

NeonEndymion on The Ur-Dragon

2 months ago

Well, I've found that post- Paradox Engine 's ban, a lot of cEDH and/or "high power" players in the area have re-evaluated what they want to get out of the format, or in the cases of a few Sisay/Arcum decks, quit the format entirely, so games have slowed down a bit. Which of course has allowed me to focus more on Good Boi dragons vs speed/curve/go-wide considerations. It's also just a bit more fun to swing with some of these Good Bois than vanilla tokens, but it has made it just a little harder to get the old draw/value engine online. You?

And yes, I did cut Dragonlord Kolaghan again, as Temur Ascendancy remains a primary tutor target and there are at least 2x other haste enablers in the list. I never liked drawing her naturally and never tutored for her, so out she went.

As to Backdraft Hellkite , I'm definitely finding a slot for it. Right now I'm looking at perhaps cutting Dragon Broodmother or Scourge of the Throne for it. What will you cut to slot it in? Dragon Broodmother is a good card, of course, but even with "perfect" mana, her pip requirements have been really hard to satisfy.

Semi-related: As my local meta has slowed down a bit, graveyard value engines have become a problem, as have go-wide token strategies, so I've found a slot for Rakdos Charm for the times when Deathrite Shaman can't effectively be the Yard Police on his own (he's better for 1v1 policing, anyway). The flexibility there has been very good vs, say, Tormod's Crypt , and with Backdraft Hellkite , it's only going to get better.

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