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Defiant Strike Discussion
2 months ago
The Heroic ability on Favored Hoplite triggers when you first cast the Defiant Strike targeting it. Changing the target of the spell won't do anything to "un-trigger" the ability or otherwise interfere with it. Favored Hoplite will get a +1/+1 counter (and you'll prevent all damage that would be dealt to it this turn).
2 months ago
when you cast a spell, like Defiant Strike, you declare targets upon casting the spell, so cast triggers go on the stack (heroic doesnt care that its the target of the spell as it resolves, just that its the target upon casting)
so you should still get/resolve the heroic trigger and because spellskite only redirects the spells target, you still draw a card.
2 months ago
I actually think that you do get the counter. The way the stack works is like this (top to bottom):
- Spellskite activation targeting Defiant Strike
- Favored Hoplite trigger
- Defiant Strike targeting Favored Hoplite
Then, if there are no more spells / abilities put onto the stack, it starts to resolve like this:
to a 1/4 Spellskite and you (not your opponent) draw a card.
2 months ago
Let's say I have Favored Hoplite on the field and my opponent has Spellskite. If I play Defiant Strike targeting my creature but the spell gets stolen, will I still get the Heroic +1/+1 counter because my spell was originally targeting my Hoplite?
3 months ago
3 months ago
I'd start dropping/trading spells before cutting anymore creatures.
Could sideboard the 'defensive' spells (Path to Exile, and a mixture of Blossoming Defense/Gods Willing) until you need them... For more Heroic bodies... as a creature-beatdown deck, it still seems a tad light... Vanguard of Brimaz can help you go wide... Dawnbringer Charioteers is a bit high on the curve, but lifelink is nice...
Also, I found a few more spells to consider. Defiant Strike, Viridescent Wisps. These cantrips could help you cycle through your deck a little faster to get to more spells to cast... I know you're already fairly packed... but more options!... Options are never bad.
4 months ago
So far none of these Ultra Budgets have been very competitive in modern, considering the speed of the meta I can't imagine them working to well. I want to build a more competitive one. I do really like the idea, and some (Like the elemental fling one) were still very good. The issue was that they were around 40+ dollars, rather than 20-10 dollar price range.
I tried to make one using the Heroic keyword, building it around cantrips that target creatures (like Bandage and Defiant Strike) along with good heroic abilities like Phalanx Leader and Favored Hoplite, filling the mana curve out with Lagonna-Band Trailblazer, Fabled Hero, and Vanguard of Brimaz, and it works suprisingly well, winning turn 4-5 on average, but I did have a game with a turn 3 kill, just because of the synergy that can be acomplished with the strive mecahanic of Launch the Fleet, targetting my two Phalanx Leaders, two Vanguard of Brimaz, and a Fabled Hero to get a board of giant (3/3 & 4/4) cats, and a giant Fabled Hero (5/5 Double Strike) for a big win.
Another Idea for a super budget is a combo deck, one that uses 2x Zombie Infestation & 4x Treasure Hunt, 4x Reliquary Tower and finishing the deck with 25x Swamp and 25x Island, I will let you imagine hoe the deck wins!
Another powerful budget deck is Kithkin! They have one of the cheapest good lords with Wizened Cenn and have Ballyrush Banneret, Rustic Clachan, Goldmeadow Stalwart, and a bunch of other great tribal elements at a cheap price. That kind of deck is also able to be easily upgraded for a still small price, with cards like Knight of Meadowgrain, Honor of the Pure, Militia's Pride, and Thoughtweft Trio for not extreme prices.
An easy deck to build is mono-white "2 for 1", its a deck I built a while back around just dropping cards like Expedition Envoy, Dragon Hunter, Dryad Militant, Mardu Woe-Reaper, Savannah Lions, Elite Vanguard, etc. backing them up by using Brave the Elements, and Honor of the Pure if you want. For a cheap version, you don't need to, and even for one that runs Isamaru, Hound of Konda and Kytheon, Hero of Akros, the deck cost less than 30 dollars.
The point of the comment is that I feel that though these decks are interesting and fun to play with, if competitive decks for a low cost are required, I think more competitive decks for a cheaper (or equal) cost are possible.
In the case of this deck (similar to neg counters), it requires the opponent to be playing creatures, and also be playing slowly enough, or with out removal, for you to steal them. This deck also doesn't have any way of dealing with the graveyard, has no sideboard, can't remove creatures, enchantments, lands, or artifacts opponents control, and though the deck is slow, it doesn't have the control elements like counter spells to support it, even though it is in the colors... It also can't speed the deck up with ramp or draw even though it is in the colors! Blue/green card draw could also help with Lorescale Coatl and ramp could make Nimbus Swimmer a seriously viable option.
If you do want ramp/draw, Explore is a super cheap option. More cantrip buffs could also help with the deck consistency, and I could go on and on, but it just seems like you didn't look at the deck for play-ability, but instead based on random cards you thought would be cool. I can't help look through every card to try and make this a viable option, because in the end I don't think it is an option, against pretty much any meta modern deck, where as my Heroic deck beats Naya Burn more often than not, and can stand to fight Affinity and Death's Shadow too. It doesn't stand a chance against Tron or make other decks, but this one can't stand against pretty much any.
4 months ago
No problem! My only other suggestions would be Hyena Umbra, because first strike and Totem Armor, and then I think running more Defiant Strikes, that card is prime. Last thing, may be cause budget, but Lightning Bolt over Shock. Good deck! +1