Shadow of the Grave

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Shadow of the Grave

Instant

Return to your hand all cards in your graveyard that you cycled or discarded this turn.

immakinganezehaldeck on Anje Reanimator (Casual CEDH)

2 months ago

11/23/22 - Madness update

I'm really low on madness cards. Needs to be far higher for an anje deck.

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Removed most end game threats + interaction that didn't have madness, since madness tech needs to be there in high density and the deck can win through that stuff mainly.

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

5 months ago

Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:

Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!

I.e.: things like how Zombie Infestation makes bodies that can be tossed for Scourge of Nel Toth, and then replenish your hand with Shadow of the Grave.

Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

5 months ago

Balaam__ yeah the Shadow of the Grave interaction is so fulfilling. My favorite part of the deck is when you take your turn 1 OTD (on the draw) to draw, be holding 8 cards, move to end step, and immediately stack a body into the grave.

Just a noteworthy characteristic about this deck is I typically don't build towards an idea that "goes second", it's just slower and often less competitive.

However with these, I have discovered that the Zombies kinda flourish with the more interaction your opponents sink in without exiling. More Grave presence = more field presence.

Balaam__ on MBD Zombie

5 months ago

It’s always nice to see cards like Zombie Infestation that are cemented into everyone’s mind as being part of these static combos (i.e. alongside Treasure Hunt) get used in a different way. The Shadow of the Grave combo you have here seems pretty satisfying when it hits.

Murrow on Cycling is a Lifestyle

8 months ago

king-saproling

They are considerations of course. However a lot of them require me to build too linear like with adding Epicure of Blood and Cliffhaven Vampire. They’re absolutely great cards and if I wasn’t trying to be more adaptive in my deck building style and wanted to fine point the lifegain/loss strategy I’d absolutely add them. Same goes for Oloro, Ageless Ascetic lovely card but I don’t want to focus exclusively on lifegain/loss strategy. I know most people say to focus exclusively on a specific strategy but that’s just not my play style anymore. I like versatility and surprise! Haha

Lich's Mastery and Drogskol Reaver are great cards and easy wins. But I just don’t like playing like that with my friends so I stay away from those sort of things. I have added Peer into the Abyss and Necrologia as quick wins but more fair in my opinion.

Bone Miser and Psychosis Crawler are in my consideration pile in my deck box actually haha so you’re right on the money there! I’m also considering Shabraz, the Skyshark  Flip. I think I may be adding Sakashima the Impostor to my ninja deck now that you mention it.

Shadow of the Grave is a lovely card. I just always cut it at the final round of cuts for some reason. It’s in my maybe pile in my deck box though for sure. I still have to play test and work out the kinks of gameplay. So it may still make the cut in the end.

Bag of Holding would be lovely if it weren’t so easily destroyed. It’s also counterintuitive to the reanimator subtheme I have going in the deck.

Thank you so much for all your suggestions! It definitely reinforced some of my considerations :)

Hapapapa195 on The Dancing Vampire

8 months ago

king-saproling ,

I was totally unaware of Strike it Rich until now, so I'll be considering that card moving forward!

In short, paying 4 mana to Bag of Holding was too steep. Shadow of the Grave was too conditional because it was often drawn into from a creatureless hand.

Cards like Shadow of the Grave and Bag of Holding increase the consistency of the deck, but also require precious mana. Right now the stats for the current build are as follows:

Turn 3 Combo: 47%

Turn 4 Combo: 30%

Turn 5+ Combo: 23%

The sample size is 46 Games so far.

I suspect that adding those cards should reduce the number of games above 5+ turns that end up being complete misses. Although, I found that when I was drawing into those cards, I was not very happy to see them. The build you see above is a result of influence from my personal playgroup, so it may not be optimized. Running cheap interaction in the slots previously taken by Street Wraith, Bag of Holding, and Shadow of the Grave are now filled by cards like Feed the Swarm, Imp's Mischief, and Vandalblast. Cheap graveyard hosers were pretty common to see after a few games of running the build.

I hope that makes sense. Optimally an Imperial Seal would be in the decklist, but I'd rather keep my kidneys, thank you.

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