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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Common|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Common|
|Shadows over Innistrad (SOI)||Common|
|Time Spiral "Timeshifted" (TSB)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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Fiery Temper deals 3 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker.
Madness (If you discard this card, you may cast it for its madness cost instead of putting it into your graveyard.)
Fiery Temper Discussion
1 month ago
I was thinking about madness and how it is a combination of two abilities. The first is a static ability which replaces a normal discard action by sending the card to exile instead. The second is a triggered ability to allow you to cast the card from exile once it has been discarded.
Then I got to thinking about whether there would be many meaningful ways to interact with that card before the triggered ability resolves. That is, interact with it while it is still in exile before it has been cast.
My initial thought is an eldrazi processor. Are there any other meaningful ways to interact with madness cards in this way? Does processing a card like this indeed prevent a player from having the option of casting it? I believe it does.
1 month ago
Hey, there's a lot of hype around Anje and for good reason, but Chainer, Nightmare Adept is also excellent from the precon especially with Magus of the Wheel . Given the current budget I don't think trying to make your deck a cEDH version is in your best interest especially because of the manabase with 30 basic lands.
There's lot of good cards here, but the manabase isn't comparable. Consider adding some Rakdos lands? At least add the budget ones?
- Smoldering Marsh
- Foreboding Ruins
- Ash Barrens
- Tainted Peak
- Dragonskull Summit
- Graven Cairns
- Sulfurous Springs
- Jund Panorama
PaneledSmile40 makes a good point about adding cards that can let you play Anje quicker, even turn two. I think all his/her budget card suggestions for this are good and can replace the additional mana sources here especially the Diamonds, Grafstone and Chalice.
Glint-Horn Buccaneer can be a backup plan with Library of Leng . This two card combo with Anje and any madness card such as Fiery Temper can kill all your opponents with damage from Buccaneer. Buccaneer even without Leng is a good card with a repeatable discard source. Leng is a may ability which means you can still discard cards to your graveyard if you choose to, but having the option to put the card you discard on top of your library can be powerful.
Anje is a good reanimation enabler. You already know this because there's many reanimation spells here and you need reanimation for the Worldgorger combo. Consider adding more reanimation Apprentice Necromancer , Buried Alive and Rune-Scarred Demon ? Demon is a creature you can reanimate to tutor for other cards.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Alright, let's get down to it! Anje Falkenrath is relatively new and I'm not yet sold on her validity as a vampire commander. My primary hang up is the overall weakness of madness as a mechanic. It is still critically underrepresented on cards, and of those that do exist only a handful are actually any good. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that I am skeptical that it can compete with existing vampire archetypes.
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I try and avoid tap lands at all costs if possible. When running a low-to-the-ground deck like this, the loss of tempo from a tap land can be more damaging than the loss of color availability. In addition, I would discourage the use of artifact lands unless you are going for a specific artifact theme. This is simply because artifact lands are easier to destroy than regular lands and aren't worth the risk with literally no benefit in this particular list.
- Ancient Ziggurat
- Blood Crypt
- Bloodstained Mire
- Graven Cairns
- Luxury Suite
- Path of Ancestry
- Unclaimed Territory
- Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
I feel that any of these lands would be strong adds to your list. While some of the cards are a bit on the pricey side, I do feel they would improve the flow and power level of the deck.
- Bloodcrazed Neonate
- Bloodhall Priest
- Bloodsworn Steward
- Erdwal Ripper
- Falkenrath Reaver
- Heir of Falkenrath Flip
- Incorrigible Youths
- Markov Crusader
- Stromkirk Mentor
Many of these creatures are either too costly or too under-powered for this format. It is important to remember that in EDH, efficiency is key. I would discourage playing any creature that falls short of the formula (Power+Toughness)/2=Converted Mana Cost (e.g. A 2/2 for two mana or better) unless it is especially crucial for your deck to function.
In addition impact is crucial. Bloodhall Priest for example is fairly costed, but doesn't do enough to advance your board state for the cost.
- Champion of Dusk
- Cordial Vampire
- Dusk Legion Zealot
- Malakir Bloodwitch
- Stromkirk Occultist
- Twilight Prophet
- Vicious Conquistador
These creatures are all what I would describe as impactful or highly efficient. When I mean impactful, cards like Malakir Bloodwitch make a big splash when they hit and are still relevant after the fact due to their efficient bodies. In terms of efficiency, Vicious Conquistador can put in a lot of work in the early game as a cheap, go-wide card.
I don't have any good tips for adds here, but I would encourage you to look for modal or mass effect type cards for this category.
These all seem like good choices to me and many of them double as potential madness triggers essentially negating their downsides.
Basilisk Collar is a solid equipment, but this is neither a voltron nor combo build that can effectively utilize it. I like Eldrazi Monument for its power; however, you lack the ability to produce enough fodder to sustain it long-term. Finally, Rakdos Cluestone is simply outclassed by other mana rocks, most notably my suggestion Talisman of Indulgence .
Herald's Horn is just a good card in any tribal deck and I would highly recommend it!
My overall impression is that you've got a decent base here, but have made several choices that I see a lot of new EDH players make in their early decks. In general, you could use more card draw and I would encourage you to take a look at EDHREC or other vampire decks on here for inspiration in terms of what kinds of effects truly shine in EDH versus other formats.
2 months ago
Looks decent for going with the madness route. I feel almost like Liliana of the Veil might be better here than Sorin given your madness focus and your low curve.
3 months ago
How do you feel about a transformative sideboard into (or from) a Madness deck? Thinking of Demigod of Revenge , Fiery Temper , and Avacyn's Judgment personally. Also, Darksteel Colossus may be a better non-budget option than Emmy to get around GY hate.
3 months ago
I actually made a $15 vampire deck for someone else a while back! Here it is if you want any ideas for your deck: $15 Madness Vampires.
Otherwise, here are the changes I would for sure make to your deck:
+3 Fiery Temper , -3 any of the other noncreature cards
3 months ago
I would prioritize having Fiery Temper over Alms of the Vein - if your meta is not overrun by burn, as in most cases the ability to point said spell at creatures & planeswalkers far outweighs the downside of not gaining 3 life.
Speaking of creatures & planeswalkers, since this deck stuffs its gravyard like there is no tomorrow, i would advise running a few (1 or 2) Magmatic Sinkhole s - as additional ways to deal with problem creatures and walkers (walkers are likely going to be even more significan't due to stuff like Wrenn and Six , Karn, the Great Creator , and UW "control" stransforming even more into a superfiends list)
In general this deck severely lacks in discard outlets. Depending on your taste and budget i would advise adding a playset of either Goblin Lore , Cathartic Reunion or Seasoned Pyromancer (the latter also acts as a way to operate if the graveyard is shut down by some enchantment - which is not that unlikely thanks to hoogak even in game 1) MAX OUT ON Hollow One & Flamewake Phoenix THEY ARE THE CORE OF THE STRATEGY - they are good in multiples, while delve creatures do diddle, since you pay you grave empty, and the second copy just orts in hand (not to mention their vulnerability to gravyard hate)
Fiery Temper occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.09%