Cloudgoat Ranger

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Cloudgoat Ranger

Creature — Giant Warrior

When Cloudgoat Ranger enters the battlefield, create three 1/1 white Kithkin Soldier creature tokens.

Tap three untapped Kithkin you control: Cloudgoat Ranger gets +2/+0 and gains flying until end of turn.

legendofa on Eda, Mother of the Lost

9 months ago

All good. It's a great philosophy for building resilient, self-reinforcing decks, and Eda definitely deserves that treatment. Right now, though, I'm looking more at the card in a vacuum. Less of a "how well can I exploit and optimize this card" ceiling and more of a "how does this card compare to others with a similar function" floor.

Eda can be a huge value engine when surrounded by higher-end cards, no question. But right now it feels to me like the floor's a little bit too low. It feels too much like the card's power is a little too reliant on the cards around it. When I was comparing it to Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage and trying it alongside Experimental Aviator, I was comparing it to what appear to be the baseline costs and abilities for token generation, seeing how quickly it could do its thing for what cost without looking too much at power and toughness. The Aviator in my example could be replaced by Geist-Honored Monk, or Head of the Homestead, or Trostani Discordant, or any other creature that brings two tokens for five mana with no requirements or conditions. That seems to be the most efficient typical rate for token generation, which is what Eda wants to do. The test could be scaled up with Cloudgoat Ranger, or Captain of the Watch, or Avenger of Zendikar. But at that point, we're looking at specific card interactions, not minimum efficiency level, since there are very few cards that produce tokens at that rate. (And reading back, I could have made that clearer.)

So that's where I coming from right now. Again, I'm not saying you're wrong to look at the card in the context of a full deck. I was also throwing around stuff like Intruder Alarm and Gruff Triplets. I just think it could use a little more tweaking before it gets fully to that point.

KIRK77 on Roon of the Hidden Realm EDH Deck

5 years ago

I would probably look to cut Verdurous Gearhulk and Cloudgoat Ranger. I would keep my eye on Wall of Blossoms, Mystic Snake, Karmic Guide, Elvish Visionary, Bounty of the Luxa, and Kiora, Master of the Depths when you play and see how good they are doing

SharpRaptor on Brion Stoutarm (Giants)

6 years ago

Hey :)

So something to immediately note, RW decks do not have a great amount of card draw or mana ramp. So Some of the cut recommendations will be focusing on making our individual card quality quite high, and making sure that our curve is reasonable due to lack of ability to rapidly start dropping high mana creatures quickly.

The recommendations will also be focusing towards the strengths of what our commander gives us. Namely, noncombat based win condition, and reliable lifegain. Meaning we don't have to rely on turning our guys sideways to win, and we can pack our deck with effects that let us draw cards on life gain and similar effects.

Also, I'm sure you are already aware from typing up the decklist, but there are a lot of draft level creatures and other cards in this deck. So there will be a lot of cut recommendations for this one.

Recommended Cuts

Creatures

Bull Cerodon - Its a generic 5/5 for 6. Its not great here.

Fire-Belly Changeling - While it is a giant for our tribal effects, we could do with something with more impact for our two drops.

Firemane Angel - This card is just SO SLOW and SO expensive to get anything going. And the body that all this work gets you is so mediocre that i just don't think this is worth it.

Hearthcage Giant - Second most expensive mana cost card in the deck, and not nearly as powerful as what we want any 8 drops that we play to be.

Hillcomber Giant - 4 mana 3/3 with little upside. We can play better.

Ivory Giant - Suspended on turn 1 this will come down on turn 6. Hard cast it will come down on turn 7. The effect that we get from doing so is not necessarily game changing so we can probably find something thats better for this slot.

Kuldotha Ringleader - Another draft level creature that unfortunately doesn't make the cut in commander.

Lairwatch Giant - Again. too much mana for what it does.

Shatterskull Giant - 4 mana 4/3 with nothing else. Not really good enough

Maybe Creatures

Artisan of Kozilek - This effect is good. But its a lot of mana in a colour pair not known for great ramp. So this is one we will need to re-evaluate once we look at how good our mana is.

Cloudgoat Ranger - While it makes a decent amount of bodies for the cost, its not greatly efficient towards what we are trying to do.

Wandering Graybeard - Ok stats but rather low impact for a 5 drop in commander. Doesn't immediately need replacing but on the short list further down the line.

Gadianten on You Will Pay

6 years ago

Here are some more token generators that you might like Pack Rat , Skirsdag High Priest , Geist-Honored Monk , Cloudgoat Ranger , Hero of Bladehold , Leonin Warleader and more draw power Midnight Reaper or another good death trigger creature Pawn of Ulamog .

ClockworkSwordfish on Does Oketra's Monument tokens let …

6 years ago

That said, the Curio can bounce anyone who makes tokens upon arrival - Cloudgoat Ranger , Sengir Autocrat , Broodmate Dragon ... you name it.

ZombieswithJetpacks on Brago, Eternal stax

6 years ago

I'd recommend Opposition . Its the all star in my Derevi Stax deck and I wish it could be my commander sometimes, especially paired with creatures like Cloudgoat Ranger and the good Elspeth. Not to mention I already see a battleball in your deck...

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