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Hazoret's Monument Discussion
Argy on Dragon Arena
4 weeks ago
You do need lots more earlier Creatures. Have you considered turning this into a Goblin build during the early game, then ramping into Dragons? That might catch people off guard.
Hope that helps.
1 month ago
Hazoret's Monument seems like great value all around in this.
1 month ago
Some of my choices maybe are better in my meta or in Zirilan of the Claw.
Clarifying some of my suggestions:
Warp World is usually very good against some decks, because it doesnt put planeswalker into play nor allow instant and sorcery spells to be cast. Sometimes I am able to put like 3 dragons replacing lands. It even counts the tokens you create with Lathliss. Only time it would not be good is against Monogreen decks with huge creatures. And it is a very fun card.
Geosurge, Mana Geyser and Seething Song - In my deck I use both Mana geyser and Seething song because I need the mana for activating Zirilan ability. Since You have more creatures than I do, I thought playing the three cards would be good.
Regarding planeswalker, I dont like Chandra, Pyromaster, Sarkhan, Fireblood and Chandra, Torch of Defiance in EDH. They are vulnerable and end up doesnt doing much. My argument about Chandra, Flamecaller is because it impacts the table in the turn she comes to play. And I end up treating her more of a modal sorcery than a Planeswalker. And in my deck Chandra's Ignition didnt work out.
Regarding Dragonspeaker Shaman and similar creatures, I dont like using them because they die to board wipe and are only better than Mana Rocks if you put more than one dragon into play per turn. I would prioritize using artifacts with similar effects like Urza's Incubator, Hazoret's Monument and Herald's Horn. Or even other mana rocks.
Sword of Light and Shadow = In my playstyle I dont care if something dies, because almost all of the dragons are a Threat, so I just wait to draw the next one. And I use card draws in its places, like Tormenting Voice, Wild Guess, Faithless Looting and the all-star for me Cathartic Reunion.
Some suggestions of dragons you didnt include but I imagine would be good in Lathliss. Glorybringer - This is an all-star, removal and haste in one package. Thundermaw Hellkite - This is a finisher in some matches. Verix Bladewing escalates acording to your mana. The new Demanding Dragon, Thunder Dragon and Tyrant's Familiar can be good too.
Sorry for the big wall of text, and I hope it helps. Monored dragons FTW!!!
2 months ago
Hey there, thanks for sharing your list.
I really like Archwing Dragon in this deck, I will need to add it into my list. Spawn of Thraxes also seems very reasonable and I also really like Hazoret's Monument and Vanquisher's Banner. I will need to check out a few of those for my deck lists.
A few cards that I might suggest cutting since they have always underperformed for me are Door of Destinies, Adaptive Automaton doesn't seem necessary since your dragons are plenty big, and Kindred Charge is really bad with legendary creatures so I would replace that one with World at War or Savage Beating. Dragon's Claw seems like a flavor inclusion, but it probably wont have much of impact.
Anyway really enjoyed the list. I like that you got 28 creatures in yours, I only got about 20 in mine, but id like to get the creature count around 22-23. Let me know if you end up adopting any of these changes.
2 months ago
If the medallions should be added, the monuments should be too.
3 months ago
ticked-off-squirrel: Thanks for the compliment! I am very proud of how it has turned out. As for the card suggestions, here are my comments.
Hazoret's Monument: Originally I shied away from Hazoret's because early on I only had like 19 creatures or so, and didn't end up casting them that often. Now that I technically have 25 of them, I think it appeals to me a lot more. I am going to get one and test it out.
Outpost Siege: My experience with Outpost Siege is I only ever declared Khans because I was always hurting for draw, but by the time I got to use it it was Turn 5, and I draw an extra card before it gets destroyed, if I even get to that point. I think if Dragons said "each opponent" instead it would be a completely different story, and an autoinclude for me, but unfortunately it's the same reason I don't run Boggart Shenanigans, the damage is just too narrow.
Tamiyo's Journal: Similar problem with this one, in my meta, even though we aren't playing cEDH decks, we are all at a minimum playing 75%, and having something really come online on T6 or so isn't fast enough to be useful, which is why I've leaned more towards the harder hitting draw spells like Commune with Lava, Memory Jar, or Mindmoil if that one works out. I think Tamiyo's is really interesting as an effect, I just think they dropped the ball on Clues and making them too heavily costed.
Thanks for commenting!
3 months ago
this is a beautiful goblin deck. not sure how helpful my suggestion will be but here is what i suggest:
Hazoret's Monument: making ALL your red creatures costing 1 less and able to cycle cards if needed.
Outpost Siege: so when your tokens get sacked they do collateral damage to players.
Tamiyo's Journal while yes a bit high with a CMC of 5, it provides continuous card draw and a tutor.
3 months ago
In my Gishath deck I run Vizier of the Menagerie and Prowling Serpopard not exactly tribal but they help with getting your dinos out on the field. Helm of the Host is also good to have, whether attached to Gishath, Sun's Avatar or Etali, Primal Storm is always a fun time.
There is also an argument to be made for Xenagos, God of Revels for all your Gishath trigger needs.