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Creature — Elf Knight
Other green creatures you control get +1/+1.
Other white creatures you control get +1/+1.
If a spell or ability an opponent controls causes you to discard Wilt-Leaf Liege, put it into play instead of putting it into your graveyard.
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Wilt-Leaf Liege Discussion
9 hours ago
Thanks for taking the time to ask questions! I'll get to your decklists within the next 12 hours, as I'm busy at this minute.
I put my answers in a spoiler block so they won't take up too much space on your profile ;)
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- Primal Command is mostly good because it has a ton of utility. Of course, it has a harder casting cost, as it doesn't have convoke, or a lower mana cost, or have Pact's ability of making you pay next turn instead. I'm running it as a 1 of right now, and considering I only play it when I already have a ton of mana and am winning, I haven't seen any problems with it, besides taking up a space in my hand early on in the game.
- Essence Warden as a 1 helps you gain a ton of life. Yeah, burn can bolt it, but are they going to waste a burn spell on a 1/1 that gives your opponent life, or a game changing, powerful, Heritage Druid? Yeah, they definitely have more burn spells available, but if enough of them don't go to the face, they will have a hard time trying to kill you off using eidolons and small creatures. As a side note, you can use also use this as a way to gain back life you lose from running shocklands / fetchlands if you're the type that really cares about that, or if your matchup just requires you to not kill yourself, like going
- Joraga Warcaller is definitely something you can run as a 1 of, but I'd cut it as well. It's main power is in mono green, combat phase based elves. Even then, if you had the mana to cast a game ending warcaller, you should have had enough to cast another spell, like maybe even just casting a Craterhoof Behemoth. It has a nice interaction with Immaculate Magistrate, which isn't that fast, doesn't do well against sweepers.
Your deck is already good as is, but is Choke necessary in your sideboard? if you plan to use that against merfolk, that could work, but is there enough of that deck in your meta?
Life Goes On just seems really pointless, since you already run some artifact hate, adding a single copy of Kataki, War's Wage and Wilt-Leaf Liege can do well. you already have some artifact hate, but kataki being a creature allows you to hit him off coco and pact. Liege won't get hit by thoughtseize, and is something you could immediately drop down thanks to a Lotv, and also affects your green and/or white silver bullets. (Kitchen Finks would get +2/+2)
One thing- Pact is good, but you might want to use some Chord of Calling, because the target goes straight onto the battlefield. If you play against any control, its much easier protecting a single spell from chord of calling. It's much harder trying to protect both pact and your creature.
1 day ago
TepigAggro ... thanks for the suggestions. I 100% agree about adding in some defence to protect my creatures while they are growing. I am debating between trying to protect a single creature with Blossoming Defense for one G, or protecting all of them with Heroic Intervention for 2cmc. I am also going to try out some of the other suggestions you made. I know he slows things down but I really like the doubling effect of Kalonian Hydra. And I like the idea of using Increasing Savagery on Champion of Lambholt to make it pretty difficult to block my creatures. I also like it on Gyre Sage to create extra mana. Your point is well taken... those cards are like running with a parachute on your back... they slow me down. Wilt-Leaf Liege was an idea i was trying out to add multiple counters to all my creatures (if I had a couple Hardened Scales out). Fungal Behemoth can be huge by turn 5.
1 day ago
Ok ive been looking through some stuff and I have some suggestions:
2 more Gyre Sage
1 week ago
Sweet, I've been looking for G/W ideas for a good while, and I like how this deck looks! +1!
I wonder if the mana base would benefit from Razorverge Thicket or Wooded Bastions? I understand the "painful mana" problems! Also, could Dryad Militant be another curve-filling option? Even just swapping out a couple of Sunblade Elfs for some might be an idea (especially since Militants get +2/+2 from Wilt-Leaf Liege).
1 week ago
I've played Esper Hatebears in Modern before and honestly it's just kind of "meh."
You basically mess with your opponent a bunch, they topdeck a large creature or win condition, and then you can't race them with your 2/2s. The issue I had was there really wasn't a way to pump your team up consistently. Little Kid decks have Gavony Township and Wilt-Leaf Liege. D&T has Honor of the Pure affect every creature you play.
It's not like you have Wasteland and Rishadan Port, either, to really make the most out of Aether Vial. You get your mana freed up so you can attack with Creeping Tar Pit and Shambling Vent more easily, but often those slow you down when you want to play Thalia, Guardian of Thraben or Geist of Saint Traft on-curve.
Then there's the whole not having Collected Company thing. You're also not a deck that plays blue or black's strongest cards in Modern. You get Fatal Push and Meddling Mage, which is nice, but Dark Confidant is too slow in the deck, Liliana of the Veil does almost nothing,Snapcaster Mage has too few targets, and Serum Visions isn't what you want at all. There are a plethora of useful planeswalkers for the deck, but at that point you'll just be wondering "Why am I not playing tokens?"
Go with Spirits, Bant/Abzan CoCo, Maverick, Little Kid Abzan, W/B D&T, or really any deck that isn't Esper Hatebears. The deck just doesn't have enough "oomph!" in it to close out games once you've locked your opponent down the way other hatebear decks can. You also can't outrace decks like Naya Burn or Zooicide, but at the same time, don't have enough hate to deal with so many different threats (like, you'll name Lightning Bolt with Meddling Mage and they'll just kill you with Lava Spikes anyway).
1 week ago
zephyr_chang Ya Wilt-Leaf Liege is an odd one, ive tried a few different cards (like Tarmogoyf and Kinsbaile Borderguard) it just always feels like its filler.Kinsbaile Borderguard is still one of my favorite options and so is Order of Whiteclayi dont want to put in Metallic Mimic because it is not protected by Brave the Elements, the same reson i stopped considering Tarmogoyf.
1 week ago
Deck looks great, very clean! Gaddock Teeg is exactly what a white weenie deck needs in preventing those Cryptic Commands and boardwipes. Wilt-Leaf Liege is only going to give (most of) your creatures half the bonus though, do you think he's worth it as a 4-drop? You could always go back to Spectral Procession or even Kinsbaile Borderguard since you currently have no 3-drops?
2 weeks ago
Any thought to Collected Company>Aether Vial? With a green splash you could then play Knight of the Reliquary, Gavony Township, Knotvine Paladin (really good with Always Watching), and Wilt-Leaf Liege.