Creature — Elf Assassin
All creatures able to block Ochran Assassin do so.
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|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Uncommon|
|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Ochran Assassin Discussion
1 month ago
I'm pretty sure that Ochran Assassin and first strike doesnt work like that. But +1 cool deck anyway
2 months ago
Labone I'll preface this by saying I have not quite developed this deck to its fullest potential. My casual playgroup finds this deck very frustrating to play against in the casual meta, so I've abandoned it for now unfortunately.
For the planeswalker, Vraska the Unseen was originally in Garruk, Cursed Huntsman's spot. I choose Garruk for two reasons: he has card draw attached to removal which can net two two cards per dead creature when combined with Chevill. And secondly I simply like the theme of Garruk better. Any Vraska would still be a good addition, but I would personally not use Vraska, Swarm's Eminence for reasons I will explain below.
This is not a deathtouch tribal deck, this is a removal tribal deck. The difference being that this deck values simple removal spells such as Doom Blade over good deathtouch creatures such as Vampire Nighthawk.
From the cards you mentioned: Hooded Blightfang, Leyline Prowler, Vampire Nighthawk, Poison-Tip Archer, Ochran Assassin, Hornet Queen, Archetype of Finality, Gifted Aetherborn are all deathtouch creatures. While they are good creatures on their own, they are not the focus of this deck so they are left out for lower CMC removal spells.
Titan Hunter isn't a bad idea, lifedrain is a viable win condition for this deck.
Ravenous Chupacabra: A very mana inefficient removal spell. Without any recursion in the deck to make it shine, it doesn't stand up to the many 2 drop removal spells.
Hope this helps.
5 months ago
@ Gbeail Thanks. ^^
If after some field testing I need another enabler I'd most definitely add Dark Bargain in again or take out Jarad's orders because Dark Bargain tutors for 2 cards where as Jarad's Orders is only 2 creatures.
@ multimedia Thanks. ^^
Great suggestions, Fauna Shaman was already in the list haha. I prefer my Grim Flayer just a tad more over Stinkweed Imp because it let's me manipulate the top of my deck like a Sensei's Divining Top while also putting the cards I want to keep on top. Where as Stinkweed Imp puts everything in the graveyard (and the trample is nice).
Doom Whisperer is something I'll definitely try to include.
As for Ochran Assassin; The reason it's in here is not just for the deathtouch but for the second effect, "All creatures able to block have to block". With First strike it becomes a one sided board wipe, giving it Indestructible makes it completely bonkers. Kathril can give it the counters it needs or it receives them through Odric, Lunarch Marshal.
5 months ago
Hey, interesting version of Kathril and nice primer.
Fauna Shaman and Stinkweed Imp can be an engine to tutor for creatures and discard/self-mill creatures. Imp has flying keyword and dredge; Fauna is a way to get it back into your graveyard to dredge again while also tutoring for a creature. Doom Whisperer has flying/trample keywords and using life for surveil can be a self-mill/manipulate the top card of your library source. Doom is a good card while also providing keywords for Kathril. Sylvan Caryatid has important hexproof keyword while also being a source of ramp.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Gurmag Swiftwing: not needed because of Vampire Nighthawk which is a much better card.
- Majestic Myriarch: not needed because of Cairn Wanderer which is another example of better card.
- Ochran Assassin: there's much better creatures here that have deathtouch as well as other keywords.
- Expedition Map: don't see a land here that's important enough that you want to tutor for it.
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
I would think that Vampire of the Dire Moon should be standard in a deck like this. I like the inclusion of Evolution Sage and Vraska, Swarm's Eminence backed up by Stony Strength , Courage in Crisis and New Horizons (at 3 copies of each) allowing your death-touch creatures to feed off Evolution Sage and grow in power. 2 each of Murder and Assassin's Trophy provides back-up creature removal. Everything else should be lands or death-touch creatures, but I would look to focus more on 1- and 2-drop creatures (maybe including Sedge Scorpion ). Among all your 3-drop creatures, only Leyline Prowler and maybe Ochran Assassin offer value for mana. Izoni, Thousand-Eyed is just so expensive to cast that it will seldom work in this deck.
1 year ago
Nice deck! I'd gladly play something like this if I had more of these cards in my inventory.
Secondly, I have a doubt of Ochran Assassin 's usability. My experience is it dies too quickly before enabling our swarm to flood the enemy and costs 3 CMC to attempt to. What is your view on it?
Last but not least, I'd definately try to decrease number of cards in the deck to 60 for bigger chance of achieving what the deck is designed for. To achieve that, I'd advise to get rid of few 'fours' and remove 1x Llanowar Elves , 1x Yavimaya Sapherd , 1x Spore Swarm . The last card to remove for me would be either the Ochran Assassin or 1x Ravenous Chupacabra, just because it might be of less use sometimes.
Let us know how the playtest went once you have a chance!
Also, did you consider a sideboard for it? To me, biggest threat for the deck would be some burning removal. Duress seems a must. Maybe Shapers' Sanctuary so that if we lose some creatures, we can quickly restore the board? Finally, Kraul Harpooner against second deck threat - flying things.
1 year ago
Hello, i'm sorry for the delay in responding here. Anyways here are the changes I would make:
Cut 3x Forests and 5x Swamps for these: Command Tower , Golgari Rot Farm , Woodland Cemetery , Tainted Wood , Overgrown Tomb , Hissing Quagmire , Temple of Malady , Blooming Marsh , Jungle Hollow , Golgari Guildgate , Blighted Woodland , Temple of the False God , Llanowar Wastes , Bojuka Bog . (I gave you more than 10 choices here so you have options at varying prices, choose whichever 10 or even more that you would be willing to include here, keep in mind also that I have ordered them based on my most recommended to least, but all are fine choices here).
I have to get going for now, but I hope that you will find all of this useful, and let me know what you think of these changes!