Creature — Insect
When Endless Cockroaches is put into to a graveyard from play, return Endless Cockroaches to its owner's hand.
|Want (2)||nafgan , pthomas625|
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|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Endless Cockroaches occurrence in decks from the last year
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Endless Cockroaches Discussion
2 weeks ago
You are going to need more than 12 lands. Whenever I build a deck, I always start with 40 lands and then for every 3 pieces of ramp, which for a mono black deck would be a mana rock or swamp doubler or ritual spell like Dark Ritual, I remove a land.
Please retune the deck with 12 non-land mana sources and 36 swamps for starters and you can think of non-swamp lands you want to include later.
My suggestions for those sources are any 12 of the following, depending on your budget:
Songs of the Damned
Cabal Coffers <- could replace a swamp
Pristine Talisman <- defiantly want that
After that you've got the commander, which takes up 1 card slot, so that leaves you with 51 cards to choose from.
I see the bare beginnings of either an aristocrats or a reanimator deck. In my opinion you should push more for aristocrats. It can draw you tons of cards and gain you quite a lot of life. There's no harm in keeping some reanimation spells in there though.
You want a good number of sacrifice outlets. I haven't heard of what a hard number should be so I'd shoot for at least 5. Here's a list of some that I remember off hand:
Infernal Tribute <- has a funny synergy with Spine of Ish Sah
Altar of Dementia
Disciple of Griselbrand
Lampad of Death's Vigil
For this strategy you'll need recurring creatures or token generators
Bridge from Below
Open the Graves
Blood Artist is a staple
Plunge into Darkness is something you might want for the pure lifegain of 3 per creature you sacrifice. Not sure that you want to use the "exile a bunch of your deck" too often.
Shadows of the Past
and so forth. I'd look through some already built aristocrats decks to see exactly whether you want to take that strategy.
Oh yeah, for utility lands I'd choose any of the following within your price range:
Geier Reach Sanitarium
3 weeks ago
Yes I did some tinkering and moved the Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx’s to the sideboard, since Contamination would render them useless anyway. Then I swapped out Spiteful Returned for the Endless Cockroaches. Grim Guardian+Spiteful Returned functioned well together, but now it’s time to rest if the cockroaches will work as synergistically with Contamination as I’m hoping.
Since this build has a cumulative effect on opponent’s resources, I feel as though Contaminated Ground should remain in place. All the vitriolic effects add up exponentially over time.
3 weeks ago
Brilliant suggestion(s) Peoyogon.
I’m going to pass on Reassembling Skeleton because I have limited free slots to tamper with (This build works with a synergy other decks seldom achieve), but Contamination stopped me in my tracks. It’s on theme, potent, and affordable enough to merit consideration. If I coupled the board altering quality of that enchantment along with your other suggestion of Endless Cockroaches, I believe I can more or less shut down the specific decks I was struggling against in my playtesting (specifically a brutal Green deck that ramps very quickly into a Craterhoof Behemoth finisher).
I’ll pass on Brood of Cockroaches because life points are a factor in this build. But the other two suggestions are fantastic. They’ll almost certainly be included. What would you suggest I remove to add 4x of each?
3 weeks ago
I love the theme of your deck!
It might be kind of a difficult card to work around but your description really reminded me of Contamination. If you did want to use it, creatures like Reassembling Skeleton, Endless Cockroaches, or Brood of Cockroaches all seem to still fit the mood of your deck while also synergyzing with contamination. What do you think?
1 month ago
Phyrexian Altar needs to be in this deck. With your commander in play, it essentially gives all creatures you control the ability "Sac this creature: Draw a card." Combined with Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder and Endless Cockroaches, you have a combo that wins on the spot, drawing your deck and giving you more than enough mana to cast whatever you need.
1 month ago
Hey rangab7, +1
I'm not seeing much good-stuffs... and it really looks like you're trying to make aristocrats: I see more tokens and sac-outlets than control.
I made a Turn 1 Hogaak deck with a very similar playstyle (play creatures, sac creatures, rush my commander, etc).
Also check out my mono-black Belzenrok deck.
It looks like you have enough draw, but inconsistent value-engines... like why Endless Cockroaches? Seems like you need more fodder like Gravecrawler or Oathsworn Vampire. I know it combos with Endrek, but your focus should be on Torgaar.
And then most of your big plays come after your engines are online, so often you'll be stuck with lots of cards you can't cast all at once that don't really trade well with your opponents' cards.
I would cut as many 4+ drops as you can (anything that doesn't draw 4+ cards or swing the game is slowing you down) and play a lot more spot removal. Then you'll be in a great spot to disrupt your opponents while gaining value until you're ready to end with a full board of tokens, 1-3 drops, and Blood Artist, etc.
You might also consider...
Bolas's Citadel... buy it while it's cheap!
2 months ago
Major update made, moved the deck more towards a strategy using board wipes and mass recursion spells to better control overall game tempo. Considered swapping in Elenda, the Dusk Rose as the commander given the new rule change but decided to leave her in the 99 for now.
3 months ago
For the purpose of this deck Assault Suit is just a cheaper version of Conspiracy. Also Culling the Weak and Carnival of Souls make every creature free and gives infinite mana with Endless Cockroaches