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As an additional cost to play Phyrexian Tribute, sacrifice two creatures.
Destroy target artifact.
3 months ago
I looked over my list again and found 5 cards that add value and make it less fragile:
Urza's Saga for all those good mana rocks.
Defense Grid cheap colorless counter/removal protection.
Dark Confidant The one deck it works in EDH haha pure value! Sidisi fodder or fodder for my next suggestion...
Phyrexian Tribute a way for mono black to deal with pesky artifacts.
Feed the Swarm a way for mono black to deal with pesky enchantments.
1 year ago
It can often be bad manners to put silver bullet cards in the mainboard. Usually, you'd put such cards in the side and swap them in for games 2 and 3. I know a lot of casual playgroups don't play best 2 out of 3 though, so if this player is using that deck a lot and consistently winning off of a single card, they can't really be surprised if you include some way to answer it in the 60. That said, Duress and Languish effects are the kinds of answers that are extremely common in black anyway. I personally wouldn't bat an eye at seeing them here. Underworld Dreams and Fate Unraveler , definitely not so much.
What is the card in question, by the way? That will obviously affect what's an appropriate response. When I played modern elves, it was pretty rare to bother with drawing the deck when you could just dump it with Collected Company and Genesis Wave . But, from playing other green decks over the years, cards like Lifecrafter's Bestiary , The Great Henge , Vanquisher's Banner , Beast Whisperer , Soul of the Harvest , Primordial Sage , Zendikar Resurgent , Glimpse of Nature , and Regal Force are what come to mind. For the creatures, they would be easy enough to deal with given enough Murder s. For the artifacts, things are rough. Black really hates destroying artifacts, so the very weak Phyrexian Tribute was the best option I could find. However, there is always the nuclear option of running Extirpate or Surgical Extraction with discard to essentially lock a single card out of the game. These are very much sideboard cards though, so running them main has a good chance of drawing a negative reaction.
1 year ago
TriusMalarky Dude, artifact removal has been in black early on, just at the cost of sacrificing creatures.
Regardless, I could have said Pharika's Libation already existed and was just printed, making this card unnecessary even in your fever-dream mindset where every color needs every ability, but you now want to make it seem like you have a beautiful vision us simpletons just can't see through your fantastical language. I may not understand what you are writing between lines, but I respond to what you say.
2 years ago
Some of these might not actually be breaks or bends, but i'll put them here anyway, since they're worth discussing. Thanks for this list btw, i wanted to create a pentacolor break/bend edh list in forever! Ephemeron, Phyrexian Tribute, Broken Visage, Artifact Possession, Curse Artifact, Catacomb Dragon, Grave Robbers, Burden of Greed, Guardian Beast, Haunting Wind, Phyrexian Gremlins, Priest of Yawgmoth, Relic Bane, Soldevi Adnate, Spoils of Evil, Warp Artifact, Xenic Poltergeist, Presence of the Master, Mudslide, Soulflayer, Rishadan Cutpurse, Rishadan Footpad, Rishadan Brigand, Sea Drake, True-Name Nemesis, Serendib Djinn, Parallax Tide, Uktabi Drake, Propaganda, Mirri's Guile, Sylvan Library, Drop of Honey, Elvish Spirit Guide, Jabari's Influence, Barbed Foliage, Storm Front, Recycle, Storm Seeker, Null Profusion, Illusionist's Gambit, Overtaker, Reins of Power, Ray of Command, Prodigal Sorcerer, Instill Energy, Fire and Brimstone, Pallid Mycoderm, Mycologist, Orcish Spy, Killer Bees, Visions, Emerald Dragonfly, Arboria, Demonic Torment, Shade of Trokair, Vivisection, Slith Strider, Midnight Charm, Keen Sense, Simoon, Goblin Spy.
2 years ago
For your removal needs, some better than others but I'll let you be the judge :)
Oblivion Stone Meteor Golem Ugin, the Ineffable Universal Solvent Unstable Obelisk Lux Cannon Argentum Armor Scour from Existence Amulet of Unmaking Nevinyrral's Disk Gate to Phyrexia Phyrexian Tribute Powder Keg Sword of Sinew and Steel Blast Zone Boompile Eye of Doom Steel Hellkite Ratchet Bomb Perilous Vault
2 years ago
While I appreciate the information, I have to wonder if two cards that show up so little as to be rendered as a rounding error can really support the point being made.
2 years ago
berryjon that is an absurd request. you never mentioned anything about "mono black" (or mono any other color for that matter) until now. if you want to play a mono colored deck while full well knowing its weaknesses, thats your own fault. and the "no dipping into artifacts" restriction is also absurd. even a mono black deck can use Universal Solvent .
that being said, i'll acquiesce your request just to prove a point. here are mono black cards that can get rid of artifacts.
these are just the ones that mention artifacts specifically, but theres also the plethora of discard spells you can use to pluck out the Vedalken Orrery before your opponent even plays it. i could also get into the colorless nonartifacts that can remove artifacts, such as Scour from Existence , which technically meets your requirements of "no dipping into other colors or artifacts themselves".
and last but not least, i also found multiple "enchant artifact" enchantments that deal automatic free damage to the controller of the enchanted artifact during their upkeep. so lets not pretend mono black doesn't have answers.
by asking me to show you examples of monoblack artifact removal, you're basically saying that "if a mono colored deck can't answer a thing, we should ban the thing". thats ridiculous.
3 years ago
As you said, the deck loses to Leyline of the Void but any similar effect, with Rest in Peace being the worst, will shut down the deck as well. As such I'd recommend Scour from Existence, Karn Liberated, and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger to permanently deal with the problem or the less permanent but equally viable answers of Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Universal Solvent, and Unstable Obelisk. There's also the more specific and/or slower options of Argentum Armor, Gate to Phyrexia, Lux Cannon, and Phyrexian Tribute, with that last one seeming like a surprisingly decent possibility for the deck.
On another note, I'd put more board wipes in and Fleshbag Marauder, Merciless Executioner, and the oft forgotten Slum Reaper to profit off Yahenni more or I'd swap them out for Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder. Given the reason you made this deck, I know you don't wanna do that, but he'd also be a decent addition to the maindeck as another token generator.