Guardian Beast

Creature — Beast

As long as Guardian Beast is untapped, noncreature artifacts you control can't be enchanted, they're indestructible, and other players can't gain control of them.This effect doesn't remove Auras already attached to those artifacts.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (24)

Squee_Spirit_Guide on Protection for artifacts in Black …

1 year ago

Guardian Beast does the job quite well, but it's not the most financially viable option. There's also Welding Jar for one-time protection.

I agree that recursion is good option. Myr Retriever and Scrap Trawler could be useful as targets for the sacrifice clause on those spells, allowing you to get an extra equipment back to your hand.

Coward_Token on Strixhaven spoiler season

3 years ago

Move over 60-format nerds, it's C21 time!

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Starting with the Prismari deck, because an actual reason:

Elementalist's Palette: Yeah this is pretty great. It's a Manalith by default, which is OK, but after a single X-spell it morphs into a Worn Powerstone and keeps going. Zaxara, the Exemplary will enjoy this, among others.

Reinterpret: Fair Mana Drain . Not spectacular but neat none the less.

Surge to Victory: Wow okay. I had to double-check to see that it didn't have the killjoy templating of "one or more"; it's like you're giving everyone a Spellbinder to share, only you're free to go to town with sorceries as well! Token spellslinging anyone? The pumping can be quite game ending in its own right if you got a source of trample. Otherwise, exiling an extra combat spell is probably a reliable thing to do

Rionya, Fire Dancer: Obviously fancy, but she seems a bit torn between spell cards and creature cards, although that could be mended by e.g. using big token spells.

Radiant Performer: Radiate is explosive and all, but would it have killed them to skip the hand casting templating? It seems to me that cheating it out in a timely matter is pretty hard anyway. Oh well, at least it cost the same and you're free to bounce it back to hand for another go

Creative Technique: Meh. Seems inefficient to me if you're just going to cast one random card, while going for two via Demonstrate seems hella risky. I'm guessing the mechanic was made for Archenemy situations in mind.

Sly Instigator: Seems kinda dependent on your playgroup including stompy things, although you might be able to make a themed deck in blue+ where you empower even your opponent's small creatures against each other

Octavia, Living Thesis: I though Quandrix was the college about counting things! Anyway, gogo mono-blue wide spellslinger!

Dazzling Sphinx: It's Chaos Wand on legs; feels kinda more red to me

Veyran, Voice of Duality: this kinda feels like the Elsha of the Infinite to Zaffai, Thunder Conductor 's Sevinne, the Chronoclasm . Bonus Round gets pretty funny here. Also, note that it doesn't double just triggers that explicitly mentions instants and sorceries, so don't forget your Birgi, God of Storytelling  ^Flips and Saheeli, Sublime Artificer s

Moving on to the Lorehold precon, which I must say I found quite disappointing seeing as R&D at that point had caught on to the struggles of boros in EDH and where seeking to address them, and the Prismari cards only amplifies that disappointment for me. Oh well, moving on to the actual cards:

Wake the Past: Starting on a positive note, this is way more castable than Triumphant Reckoning , and that haste addition means you can spring a Blightsteel Colossus on people

Angel of Ruins & Ruin Grinder: Oh come one Wizards, Landcycling is there to mitigate getting mana screwed, an anti-frustration mechanic. It doesn't warrant increasing the MV of the card they're on to a point where they should be bombs (and the ETB/death triggers don't really justify it either). Yes, I know the face commander can double them from the graveyard for prenium, I don't care.

Digsite Engineer: Not bad, a repeatable Karn, Scion of Urza -2 that could get out of hand in a reasonable and fair matter. Decent direction for white.

Audacious Reshapers: Repeatable Madcap Experiment s on legs. Give them lifelink to skip the downside. Probably abuseable

Bronze Guardian: Ey, Guardian Beast throwback! Meh on the whole tho.

Archaeomancer's Map: reasonable white Burgeoning , not bad; punishes landfall decks a bit. Still, while I'm probably in a bit of a minority on this, I don't think white has that big of a problem with ramp in EDH; the generic rocks work fine IMo

Monologue Tax: See above, even if this isn't bad; while its performance can vary, I don't think you can expect it to be much more than a Worn Powerstone most of the time

Battlemage's Bracers: slightly modified Illusionist's Bracers , I like this

Excavation Technique: With that drawback it could have gone all the way and included lands too. Anyway, again, anti-Archenemy tech right here, more so than the Prismari one, but giving the Archenemy six colored mana to play with seems risky in its own right

Laelia, the Blade Refored: red Phyrexian Arena on legs , kinda. The haste seems like kind of a trap since I think you're often out of mana/already played a land on the turn you get her out. I don't think there's a way to circumvent the "one or more" templating in mono-red; I couldn't find a card that cheaply exiles individual cards alá Alms .

Losheel, Clockwork Scholar: Speaking of color shifted Phyrexian Arena s on legs that can't be readily abused, here's an underwhelming attempt at giving white card advantage. Best I could find for drawing more than one card per turn rotation is Spawning Pit . Don't really expect this to be the mono white messiah we've all been holding out for

Alibou, Ancient Witness: Meh, Golem/rocks tribal I guess? And scry 8 or something seems kinda tedious.

Welcoming voiced disagreements here, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong

MLS91 on Crippling Fear

3 years ago

Profet93

1. Oppression and Desolation are interchangeable in my mind at this point, I'd rather run them both together but I can't really see the space for it, hard cuts, hard decisions sorta thing.

2. All Is Dust was cut from the original "brainstorm" build due to hurting my stax/control pieces, I see the value in hitting other permanents being in mono-black. Living Death took this spot to me.

3. I have a Mind Twist in the mail as we speak, in what we've been discussing above I still think i'll be running Thoughtseize until i become more comfortable with the deck.

SufferFromEDHD

Thank you, I appreciate your appreciation. In light of your suggestion, i'm looking at cutting Fleshbag Marauder for Phyrexian Obliterator . I've liked the idea of Mirage Mirror but I don't get what the potential value you see in it could be in? Is this perhaps similar value in mind to Profet93 and I's discussion over Vesuva and Thespian Stage? Likewise are you seeing the same similarities in Homeward Path and Guardian Beast ?

SufferFromEDHD on Crippling Fear

3 years ago

Yea... this is a really neat build. We are doing two very different things but I appreciate your sacrifice stax approach as well as your input on my list.

Suggestion: cut one of your 3 drop "etb sac/destroy" creatures for that Phyrexian Obliterator .

I could see Mirage Mirror adding real value.

Dream Devourer doesn't fit in your strategy but I have a feeling Guardian Beast would do just fine here ;)

OrsettoMorbido on List of Color Pie Breaks/Bends

3 years ago

Some of these might not actually be breaks or bends, but i'll put them here anyway, since they're worth discussing. Thanks for this list btw, i wanted to create a pentacolor break/bend edh list in forever! Ephemeron, Phyrexian Tribute, Broken Visage, Artifact Possession, Curse Artifact, Catacomb Dragon, Grave Robbers, Burden of Greed, Guardian Beast, Haunting Wind, Phyrexian Gremlins, Priest of Yawgmoth, Relic Bane, Soldevi Adnate, Spoils of Evil, Warp Artifact, Xenic Poltergeist, Presence of the Master, Mudslide, Soulflayer, Rishadan Cutpurse, Rishadan Footpad, Rishadan Brigand, Sea Drake, True-Name Nemesis, Serendib Djinn, Parallax Tide, Uktabi Drake, Propaganda, Mirri's Guile, Sylvan Library, Drop of Honey, Elvish Spirit Guide, Jabari's Influence, Barbed Foliage, Storm Front, Recycle, Storm Seeker, Null Profusion, Illusionist's Gambit, Overtaker, Reins of Power, Ray of Command, Prodigal Sorcerer, Instill Energy, Fire and Brimstone, Pallid Mycoderm, Mycologist, Orcish Spy, Killer Bees, Visions, Emerald Dragonfly, Arboria, Demonic Torment, Shade of Trokair, Vivisection, Slith Strider, Midnight Charm, Keen Sense, Simoon, Goblin Spy.

Squirrel_of_War on Taste the Infection

4 years ago

@Wicker of course! I would definitely toss in

• Nether Void
• Guardian Beast
• The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
• Mana Crypt
• Grim Monolith
• Chains of Mephistopheles
• Mox Diamond
• Sword of Fire and Ice

Those are the most expensive additions I can think of.

Savaaage on Marquis De Chainer, Sadism 101

5 years ago

OscarGoldman thanks for checking out the deck. I've been out of the game for a couple of months and haven't had time to update the deck, however, I got a few weeks of games coming up so I'll need to make some modifications ;).

You hit the nail on the head about Guardian Beast - I've added him as a flex spot due to my general artifact count but I've never seen to get good value of him. At this point I'm probably going to cut him again for something like The Abyss. I've been meaning to add Meteor Golem as this is a mandatory card for Chainer, cuttingGuardian Beast is a clear choice at this point.

I used to run Mikeus in the past but without the Nooze/Trisk/Ballista/Devourer combo. This was just a personal choice, mike and trike combo was semi disliked by our playgroup in the past, however, those restrictions are no longer in place, so it may be right to rebuild it that way. I would probably replace the current aristocrat package for mike and trike and trim some fat for more tutor(s) or board control. I like the direction and it may be the right way to go.

In regards to null rods and such, yea unfortunately there's not much we can do here outside of switching our win condition for that game/round. If you were setting up an aristocrat win then it would probably need to switch to a exsanguinate/torment of hailfire/living death finish. Gate to Phyrexia seems ok but you'd need a complete rework to include a token package, which I feel will be better suited in something like Xiaohou Dun Control deck.

Sorry for my post being all over - wrote this quickly at work. I'd be interested to discuss this further thought! Look towards a rework of the deck soon.

Coward_Token on Are Mana-Generating Artifacts Really that …

5 years ago

DemonDragonJ: Might not be what you want since it's not permanent agnostic, but Guardian Beast works in this case. (Robot dorks like Palladium Myr are out of luck though.)