Thunder-Thrash Elder

Thunder-Thrash Elder

Creature — Viashino Warrior

Devour 3 (As this enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice any number of creatures. This creature enters the battlefield with three times that many +1/+1 counters on it.)

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Set Rarity
Planechase Anthology (PCA) None
Planechase 2012 Edition (PC2) Uncommon
Shards of Alara (ALA) Uncommon

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Thunder-Thrash Elder Discussion

Yesterday on Are 'as this enters' and ...

1 year ago

A few questions here.

Mox Diamond has a replacement effect applying if it would enter the battlefield, ultimately allowing it to enter the battlefield. It enters the battlefield at the same time as it would if it didn't have a replacement effect.

So I'm drawing a parallel for instant and sorcery spells — effects which say to do something 'as you cast an instant or sorcery spell' ( Splicer's Skill ) or 'as you cast this spell' ( Anoint ). So these are also replacement effects, right? They take you casting the spell and replace it with you casting the spell + another effect? As I understand it, this makes sense because some cards ( Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder ) would need these effects to apply before triggers would go on the stack from casting their respective spells.

Are all 'as ~ enters the battlefield' effects also replacement effects? I know Clone is. Is Thunder-Thrash Elder ? Is Master Biomancer ?


Also, I regret waiting so long to ask this section of this question, but I discovered a related oddity while playing Magic: Arena about a month ago. We were playing one of the weird game modes allegedly related to the War of the Spark storyline, where each player starts the game with a Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Avatar emblem. There was a creature on each side of the battlefield, and I activated the emblem, getting a Clone creature (one of Mirror Image / Protean Raider / Spark Double ), and wasn't given the option to have the token enter as a copy of another creature.

I was looking up rulings, and on Prototype Portal on Gatherer (as imprinting a Phyrexian Metamorph would also result in creating a clone token), it mentions "Any “as [this permanent] enters the battlefield” or “[this permanent] enters the battlefield with” abilities of the exiled card will also work."

Is there a ruling that I'm not understanding here? Or do I understand correctly, but this must be a case of either there's an Arena oversight or I must be misremembering?

CommanderAdventures on Kalaran Deck 1

2 years ago

Dragon Broodmother kann nicht dein Commander sein, Alternativen fuer ne Lifegain / Token / Devour Strategie waeren:

Empfehle ausserdem Karten die nix mit dem Lifegain / Token / Devour Theme zu tun haben (wie z.B. Flameblast Dragon, Radha, Heir to Keld etc.) zu replacen:

Laender:

Sombrereo on Beast Feast

2 years ago

Sweet idea, didn't know Thunder-Thrash Elder was a thing!

What do you think about Blisterpod? It gives you multiple bodies to Sacrifice and can even ramp you into your big finishers.

Skin Invasion  Flip gives you another way to compensate on your creatures dying.

As a card draw engine, I can recommend Fecundity to keep the action going.

If you have the extra bucks, Blossoming Defense is a straight up better Ranger's Guile.

I would also cut a couple of the high cmc cards to make room for a playset of Lightning Bolts since they give you a way to interact with your opponent as well as giving you more aggressive draws. Given that you can afford them, a playset of Bolts can be used in almost any red deck in Modern, so they are definitely worth the money.

Happy brewing!

Landonius on Exploding Tokens [Tremors]

2 years ago

Cybird13 Devour looks really cool in this deck. Especially the Modern version I'm working on which is more sacrificey. I did a quick Gatherer search and found Thunder-Thrash Elder. That card is going to tear it up. Thanks for the suggestion - let me know how it goes if you ever try it out.

MoGoose831 on Do you even fling, bro? - first EDH deck

3 years ago

Thanks again bushido_man96!

Crusader of Odric and Thunder-Thrash Elder are both in here because of Entreat the Angels and will be leaving once I get a few more cards.

Expedite is only in here for the card draw and I agree it's super weak.

As for Brave the Elements, it's one of those cards I put in almost every white deck. It's saved my @$$ more times than I can count! But I can definitely see it not being as strong as other options, thanks!

I just saw False Prophet the other day. Creature + board wipe! It's awesome!

bushido_man96 on Do you even fling, bro? - first EDH deck

3 years ago

I think of cards you could cut, I would include Expedite, Crusader of Odric (it doesn't look like you are going to be controlling enough creatures to really make that one matter), Thunder-Thrash Elder (you want to sac creatures to Brion), and Brave the Elements (its ok, but its a once-off that I think you could find better value for that slot). That would give you some room to narrow down your maybeboard.

For an interesting option for boardwipes, you could consider False Prophet.

MoGoose831 on Do you even fling, bro? - first EDH deck

3 years ago

Thanks for the recommendations Deathstroke2791 I really appreciate it. My creature list is a bit random because I built the deck with what I had on hand.

My group's meta is a lot of aggro so things like Flameblast Dragon and Living Inferno are huge help as they can be pretty versatile but I guess at the same time they are in the higher end of the cmc spectrum. Thunder-Thrash Elder is another one that's in here because of Entreat the Angels and once that goes so will the elder.

Combustible Gearhulk is awesome. I definitely need more card draw and this fits perfectly. Solemn Simulacrum is one of those edh staples I haven't gotten yet. This is my first commander deck so I'm still building my edh collection. I absolutely love Flameshadow Conjuring it's cheap and looks like it can be a game changer!

CommanderOfTheDanceFloor on R/G Devour

3 years ago

Good suggestions, Mycoloth is a good card for late game but by the time I get him out I already have a trampling 25/25 Thunder-Thrash Elder so its usefulness is questionable. Fling is actually a decent card but a well guessed Fertile Imagination can net me six saprolings for four mana. Warstorm Surge is expensive mana wise while Doubling Season is money expensive...and I don't want to proxy it. This is a more budget deck but Parallel Lives is a cheaper replacement for doubling season.

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