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Raid - If you attacked with a creature this turn, you may have Protean Raider enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield.
Protean Raider Discussion
3 months ago
I think you should cut Metallic Mimic and Protean Raider to fill the playsets of Dire Fleet Captain , Dire Fleet Poisoner , Warkite Marauder and Kitesail Freebooter . Decent standalone cards like Kitesail are better than Mimic in Vial decks; Mimic is better in low to the ground aggro decks since you can get more value out of it by playing 1-drops. You could, of course, fill out the one-drops but it looks like you're going for a more midrangey style so Mimic is just worse than the other pirates you could play. Cutting Protean Raider is just to keep the curve closer to 2 so Vial isn't as awkward.
5 months ago
A few questions here.
Mox Diamond has a replacement effect applying if it would enter the battlefield, ultimately allowing it to enter the battlefield. It enters the battlefield at the same time as it would if it didn't have a replacement effect.
So I'm drawing a parallel for instant and sorcery spells — effects which say to do something 'as you cast an instant or sorcery spell' ( Splicer's Skill ) or 'as you cast this spell' ( Anoint ). So these are also replacement effects, right? They take you casting the spell and replace it with you casting the spell + another effect? As I understand it, this makes sense because some cards ( Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder ) would need these effects to apply before triggers would go on the stack from casting their respective spells.
Also, I regret waiting so long to ask this section of this question, but I discovered a related oddity while playing Magic: Arena about a month ago. We were playing one of the weird game modes allegedly related to the War of the Spark storyline, where each player starts the game with a Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Avatar emblem. There was a creature on each side of the battlefield, and I activated the emblem, getting a Clone creature (one of Mirror Image / Protean Raider / Spark Double ), and wasn't given the option to have the token enter as a copy of another creature.
I was looking up rulings, and on Prototype Portal on Gatherer (as imprinting a Phyrexian Metamorph would also result in creating a clone token), it mentions "Any “as [this permanent] enters the battlefield” or “[this permanent] enters the battlefield with” abilities of the exiled card will also work."
Is there a ruling that I'm not understanding here? Or do I understand correctly, but this must be a case of either there's an Arena oversight or I must be misremembering?
6 months ago
Also for your mana curve I think if you want more 2 drops you might consider running 4 of Young Pyromancer and then maybe adding a flexible card like Izzet Charm . You can counter a non creature spell, do some spot removal, or get to your top end faster in 1 card. You could just cut a few 3 drops. My first cuts would be Protean Raider , or Call to Mind or Unwind . If you want more cards on your top end Ral, Storm Conduit might be good as a one or two of.
7 months ago
I would definitely drop all copies of Lighthouse Chronologist . I takes Waaay to much mana to be good for anything and if you are playing a control deck, you want your mana available at all times, for a counterspell or some quick removal. I would also look to drop some of your creatures, particularily some of the more expensive ones(mana wise) like Dominus of Fealty . This is Modern and is incredibly fast. I would look at a Snapcaster Mage for an increased threat of control or Torrential Gearhulk for a good end game threat. Counterspells are always something you need so, id suggest dropping Protean Raider for maybe a Mana Leak . Or maybe Opt / Serum Visions because you dont seem to have much card draw. Which brings me to another point. Control decks must, Must, MUST have a fair amount of card draw in them. You need to have your hand stocked with what you need so that you can respond to things when they pop up, not 2 turns later. I would suggest not only Opt / Serum Visions but Chart a Course and maybe Merfolk Looter which can help keep your hand at an even 7, while still making spells available using previously mentioned cards like Snapcaster Mage , Torrential Gearhulk , and Call to Mind .
7 months ago
Congratulations for your deck! I like the idea of cloning stuff, and I am still trying to find a build that works. If I can give you a hint, prefer cards that can clone any creature on the field over the cards that can only clone your creatures (everyone should have a Consecrated Sphinx , right? Not only your opponent).
I don't feel like would help you much with cloning. The best (and maybe only) white card that refers to cloning is Mirrorweave .
If you look at https://edhrec.com/themes/clones, you will see that almost all clone effects are blue: Clone , Vizier of Many Faces , Gigantoplasm , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Mirror Image , Supplant Form , Blatant Thievery , Clone Legion , Mirror Match . If you want to copy spells aswell, Insidious Will , Swarm Intelligence and Spelltwine are there for you.
gives you Evil Twin and all black tutors and removal.
gives you Altered Ego , Progenitor Mimic , Spitting Image and all of green ramp and removal. For me, it is the best color to splash on a blue clone deck, because it also allows the Biovisionary alternative win-condition.
As long as commander suggestions are concerned, here are some ideas:
Riku of Two Reflections is the go-to clone commander. He has all the relevant colors for cloning (), but he is crazy expensive at 20 dollars, so it might be good to consider other options:
You can have Keiga, the Tide Star as your commander. This way, you can clone him and let the copy Keiga die to the legend rule. When the Keiga copy dies, you can steal an opponent's creature, while still having the original Keiga.
You can have Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer as your commander. He is a win condition by himself, giving tokens haste and making all of them bigger. Red gives you a lot of token generators: Brass's Bounty , Flameshadow Conjuring , Storm the Vault Flip among others. Imagine creating a token copy of a Kokusho, the Evening Star , then turn all your tokens into Kokusho, then sacrificing all them to the legend rule, then draining all your oponents for lethal. Great value!
You can have Tatyova, Benthic Druid as your commander. She doesn't refer to a clone strategy, but she gives a lot of card draw by just playing lands (your hand will always be filled). You can clone Rampaging Baloths and Avenger of Zendikar for a massive win. Also, you have access to all the blue-green clones and the Biovisionary + Rite of Replication combo.
If you want to use altogether, you might consider Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder or Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis . Yidris allows you to use Evil Twin and all the black removal. Yidris also increases the value you get from playing spells by cascading into other spells. // K&T, on the other hand, gives you card advantage and makes you less threatening while you build your board. White also gives you access to great boardwipes ( Austere Command ).
All in all, good luck in your deckbuilding and have fun!
7 months ago
A few thoughts. This is gonna be some word vomit, so take what you please. I'm also only going to suggest more budget-friendly cards, since this is casual (so no Cyclonic Rift ).
- My first thought is to get this strictly down to 60 cards. Your chances of getting to what you need is significantly higher for every number you go above 60. With a deck like this, cut it down to about 23 lands, and fill in the rest.
- Take out Kasmina's Transmutation . There are so many good red/blue removal. From Lightning Bolt to Lava Coil ; from Vapor Snag to Curse of the Swine .
- You don't want too many counterspells, cause permanent removal is just as good most of the time, so I'd take out Counterflux and bump up Ionize to four copies.
- Hijack should definitely be a sideboard card, since control is a popular archetype. Same goes for Protean Raider .
- You have more than , so Pyromancer's Goggles might not be the best fit, but running a 1 of isn't too bad.
- You can never have too many Young Pyromancer s if you are running spells! Also see Murmuring Mystic and Talrand, Sky Summoner .
- Keranos, God of Storms is legendary and top of your curve. Consider cutting 1-2, but definitely leave him.
7 months ago
ETB Clones: Infinite Reflection , Mirrorpool , Spark Double , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Clever Impersonator , Dack's Duplicate , Evil Twin , Gigantoplasm , Mirror Image , Phantasmal Image , Phyrexian Metamorph , Protean Raider , Quicksilver Gargantuan , Progenitor Mimic , Sakashima the Impostor , Sakashima's Student , Stunt Double , Vizier of Many Faces , Altered Ego , Bramble Sovereign .
Just some cards, hope that helps.
8 months ago
That is if you decide to follow with Marchesa as commander. If you go the route of Beckett Brass, I think you then need some things like Nemesis Mask , Demoralize , Panic Attack , Outmaneuver ... things that help your creatures become harder to block. Also, more shapeshifters could be a good thing (i.e. Dack's Duplicate , Protean Raider , Clever Impersonator etc.).
Also, because a good amount of pirates create treasures and so do some other flavorful Ixalan sorceries, instants, artifacts... it probably would save you some slots to not run things like Chromatic Lantern since treasures are technically mana fixers.
Hope that helps! Feel free to ask for more input. I love the Ixalan-Pirates theme.
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