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| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
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Rules Q&A
Argothian Wurm
Creature — Wurm
Trample
When Argothian Wurm enters the battlefield, any player may sacrifice a land. If a player does, put Argothian Wurm on top of its owner's library.
Aosana on
7 months ago
SufferFromEDHD Thank you for the recommendations! I think I'll keep Primal Order in the Sideboard for now, and I also put Hall of Gemstone in there thanks to your advice. I don't know how I missed Lure of Prey! I'll have to cut something for that as soon as possible.
As for Argothian Wurm and Endless Wurm, I feel like their respective drawbacks make them a bit less reliable than some of the other big Creature cards I've already included. However, the latter's 9/9 stat line is incredibly tempting; for now, I'll put Endless Wurm and Rancor in the Sideboard for anyone who wants to try them out together.
Thank you again! :D
SufferFromEDHD on
7 months ago
Get that Primal Order in the main board.
Hall of Gemstone is a mono green all star.
Dust Bowl is brutal late game with a lot of basic lands.
Natural Order and Lure of Prey are neat.
Running wurms but no Argothian Wurm?
DreadKhan on
Brian Stacks' Plow Under (1v1)
1 year ago
I have a deck that was doing something a bit similar, it was Gruul mostly so it could use Orcish Lumberjack. That card/deck got a lot of mileage out of Mwonvuli Acid-Moss, this can help you hit Plow Under mana while further denying your opponent a key land. If you use any dual lands that have Basic land types then Acid-Moss can find them, it specifies Forest. Another card that might be funny is Argothian Wurm, it is on the Reserved List but isn't too pricey, it's great if a deck can hate on lands enough.
Knivesthebrutal on
Lord Windgrace CEDH Land Hate
2 years ago
Liquimetal Coating an opponents land (preferably a basic); then then you Splinter them ALL from your opponent's deck.
Argothian Wurm and Shivan Wumpus are also fun bodies to get out early and force opponents to make those hard choices, as does Deus of Calamity - it's actually decent creature removal. Opponents, in theory, shouldn't have the gas to have big blockers out, so they have to chump block or lose more lands.
Destructive Flow is nice stax card
Bramblecrush and Reclaiming Vines are ok spot removal of non-creatures (including lands)
Reap and Sow , Mwonvuli Acid-Moss are ok land-destruction themed land fetch
Daryl, Hunter of Walkers and Pyrohemia or Pestilence make decent critter control/card advantage (obviously works wonders against zombie decks), though that is getting away from the theme of the deck...
Flagellum on
Klothys' crusaders
3 years ago
I've been brewing a similar list. Albeit mine isnt exactly budget (Wheel of Fortune which is actually a pun with Klothys lol). Steam Vines is another version of Kudzu and running both would just seem hilarious. Shivan Wumpus and Argothian Wurm are decent cheap beaters that you can sneak out that no one will want to sac a land for. Deus of Calamity is another good beater. All these beaters do what we want, I.e. speed up games or cause LD. Stoneshaker Shaman, Price of Glory, and Citadel of Pain are pretty cheap ways to stop counter spells from blocking the mana intensive LD (Price of Glory is well worth the $10 tag). Other than that you may want some card draw. Something like Cathartic Reunion and other cantrips/cheap ways to draw. Reforge the Soul is another solid $10 upgrade should you want to increase the budget. Groundskeeper is a good budget puedo-Crucible of Worlds and lets you get some lands back.
JANKYARD_DOG on
And The Wurms Ate Into His Brain (Atla)
4 years ago
More changed inspired by comments.
Argothian Wurm --> Saltskitter : Trying out this bit of fun.
Voracious Wurm --> Whisperer of the Wilds : Want to try this out before going for a 1cmc dork, see how well it works. The ferocious shouldn't be hard to turn on.
Swords to Plowshares --> Generous Gift : Exile is nice, but versatility is better.
Lurking Predators --> Fanatical Devotion : Sac outlet for eggs and saving critters from destruction.
Quicksilver Amulet --> Birthing Boughs : More eggs for more creatures.
If you see anything else that's a good switch let me know, or if you don't agree with something or have a better idea, feel free to comment. Thanks all for the help so far, much appreciated. We'll see how these test out, there is still more I'd like to try in the maybe board
bushido_man96 on
And The Wurms Ate Into His Brain (Atla)
4 years ago
Heck, I'll pitch in. I really enjoy this stuff...
Point 1: Argothian Wurm could probably be cut, unless you feel it's worth experimenting with. A 6/6 trample for 4 CMC is a good deal. If you find he doesn't perform, ditch him.
Point 2: Life gain doesn't seem to be the theme of the deck, so I wouldn't look to keep those cards around for incidental life gain. I'd say 90% of the time, Voracious Wurm is going to be a 2/2 do-nothing for you. Mana dork would be better, or another mana rock. Pelakka Wurm is still a fatty, though, and you could probably keep it. Mayael's Aria is a nice alternate win-con, and if you like having alternate win-cons, then it's worth keeping. If it gets blown off the board all the time, then at least you're sucking resources. Cut at your own discretion.
Point 3: Saltskitter . I don't see an issue with keeping it. It's cute, but not useless, and you need something in the 4 drop slots.
Point 4: Naya Charm . Modal spells are always nice, and although one of the modes might not be as useful, you never know when you might have to trip up a token army. Clearing a path for combat is always good, and Regrowth or or Eternal Witness are always good cards; this one is at instant speed. Worth running, I think. What I would consider is replacing Swords to Plowshares with Generous Gift . More flexibility.
Point 5: Lurking Predators could probably be cut and not be missed. Helps with your commander isn't on the field, but is replaceable.
Point 6: Mayael's Aria - see above.
Point 7: The Planeswalkers: I'm mixed on the inclusion of Planeswalkers. What I do is evaluate the + and - abilities. You've done that pretty well with Garruk. He can at least protect himself with beasts, and at worst, he's another copy of Rishkar's Expertise for you, which isn't bad. He's worth keeping. I'm not as sold on Vivien. First turn, she either gets you a land (because you usually want to keep the creatures in the library), or is a Beast Within for 5 CMC. Not a good trade in my mind. Her ultimate is great, but if your group let's you ultimate her, then they're a bunch of idiots.
Point 8: The creature droppers. Like you mentioned earlier, you're going to end up with creatures in your hand, whether you want to or not. These will help you drop them at the end of an opponent's turn, providing pseudo-haste, which is not bad, and gets around counter spells for the most part. The Piper is the best of the bunch as far as cost goes, but fragile because it's a creature. If I was going to cut one, I'd probably cut Quicksilver Amulet in this deck.
Hope that all helps, and I look forward to seeing other opinions, too.
JANKYARD_DOG on
And The Wurms Ate Into His Brain (Atla)
4 years ago
Made some changes based on your suggestions, let me know what you think. Longish read condensed.
Burnished Hart --> Skyshroud Claim : The point was made that 6cmc for 2 lands is not optimal, so we reduced it to 4cmc.
Sakura-Tribe Scout --> Elvish Mystic : The former was included in case of an overflow of lands in hand. However a dork is always useful.
Advent of the Wurm --> Mirror Entity : Eggs = Instant creatures, Making everything an egg during a wipe is almost equivalent to someone casting Cyclonic Rift in your favor.
Crush of Wurms --> Congregation at Dawn : 21 mana total for 6 tokens... while flavorful it can't be hatched.
Urza's Incubator --> Ashnod's Altar : both cost the same, produce the same basically, the latter offers a sac outlet for eggs. (Still debating Thornbite Staff )
Wurmcoil Engine --> Nesting Dragon : Mostly to reduce the budget, increase fliers, and better synergy
Panglacial Wurm --> Gruul Ragebeast : Never have I ever... been able to cast the P- Wurm from the deck. Ragebeast will be in testing.
Argothian Wurm : Early game goodness, late game could slow us down facing certain decks that can abuse lands.
Voracious Wurm : Pelakka Wurm and Mayael's Aria are our only instances of lifegain in the deck now (thought there was more) it is however the cheapest wurm in the deck. Replace with dork, or keep?
Saltskitter : Triggers Gruul Ragebeast , Elemental Bond , and Warstorm Surge potentially every turn. Too cute?
Naya's Charm: I have mixed feelings about. 3dmg to creature only feels like a waste. Returning a card from the yard could prove useful if commander tax adds up. Lastly and most used is clearing a path to swing. Should this slot be filled with a better removal spell, or is there worth I'm missing here?
Lurking Predators : Our new commander has a similar ability that's less annoying. Also its not a 'May' trigger so we could potentially be forced into casting our deck into a wipe.
Mayael's Aria : There's no other counter synergy in the deck, but bigger is always better. Surprise wincon? Slot in something better?
Garruk, Primal Hunter vs Vivien Reid : One or both? Garruk protects himself on the ground, draws cards, and makes a mess of Wurms. Vivian finds critters, destroys flyers (glaring weakness in the deck), and an emblem to boost our field. Both technically have the same turn clock to go off except Garruk can be used as a 5cmc one shot draw spell, whereas vivian can minus and have points remaining.
Something else I've been mulling over is what to replace these last 2/3 with... as they are no longer as useful, at least not all of them. Piper may have a use to stay being: a) it's a creature that can be egged, and b) with a haste enabler out it can be 5cmc for 2 creatures.
Belbe's Portal : 8cmc(5/t:3) investment for 1 creature limited to type.
Quicksilver Amulet : 8cmc (4/t:4) investment for 1 creature
Elvish Piper : still may have it's uses. 5cmc (4/t:1) investment, haste enabler preferred prior to casting.
