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Creature — Zombie
Madness (1)(Black) (If you discard this card, you may play it for its madness cost instead of putting it into your graveyard.)
When Grave Scrabbler enters the battlefield, if its madness cost was paid, you may return target creature card in a graveyard to its owner's hand.
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Grave Scrabbler Discussion
1 month ago
2 months ago
cdkime Thank you for reviewing and providing feedback, much appreciated.
As for your suggestions, I have considered some of those cards before and I might be testing them out. I have a few reasons why I suspect they don't fit this deck that well, the primary context is that I have a very deliberate tempo strategy with this deck.
Marrow-Gnawer is potentially super powerful with providing board presence and evation, but the problem is he requires tapping out and then waiting a turn to untap as well. Since this deck is built around keeping mana up for counterspells and other answers and then have the flexibility to do something else in opponents endstep if no response were needed, like making rats, digging with tasigur, digging with supreme will, activating nezumi or snapcasting something. You get the idea. I feel that Cryptic Command already fulfills the role of enabling that final big attack (tapping down the board) when needed while at the same time being able to solve other problems. And if you have a Pack Rat out it's super easy to make the needed 4-6 rats for lethal anyways, and if you don't have a Pack Rat Marrow Gnawer won't do very much. So I think he's better suited for a mono black rat deck but would be a potentially dead draw and win-more card in this one.
Swarmyard I will definitely try out. My worry is that we don't have enough use for the colorless mana and might end up being unable to cast Cryptic Command or make a rat. It would be really nice to have primarily for protecting Nezumi against graveyard decks. Pack Rat I find usually protects himself, but it's nice to have the option there as well. Maybe 1 or 2 copies.
Biting RainIt's a potential sideboard card, but it does kill every creature in our deck except 3+ Pack Rats and Tasigur. I'm thinking that something more universally powerful like Damnation would be a better choice against wide boards in this deck, and then just keep a creature in hand to recover. I Play it in my other madness deck so I know it can be very good, worth testing.
Call to the Netherworld: I can see crazy EOT Pack Rat plays discarding first a creature, then Call picking the creature up and so on. The problem is it's a potentially dead card in some situations, it's not a good card to draw in your opening hand for example, and can't pick up Snapcaster. It's also hard to see a good cut for it. Worth noting that Nezumi already provides a way to pick up creatures from the grave, and that Grave Scrabbler is a more expensive but similar effect that could pick up any creature while providing an extra body. Maybe Call is worth sideboarding in against uncounterable removal like Abrupt Decay and Supreme Verdict?
5 months ago
Uba Mask seems like it's questionable with madness stuff. You don't really want to play a 4 mana 2/2. If we have red now, it does turn Faithless Looting into a 2 mana draw 2 (at least I think it does). You can also flashback looting if you find yourself drawing into lands you don't need. I copied your list and made some changes because I wanted to know if it really worked and it felt like Alms of the Vein added a lot of speed. I know you're probably set on One with Nothing but Collective Brutality felt a lot stronger. You don't really want your entire hand discarded unless you have a lupine prototype which means you don't want to be using a OwN until t3. When you do, you'll have 2 mana left for madness costs, which can be Grave Scrabbler (but you probably didn't discard a creature on 1 if you're trying to discard your hand on 3 and you now have no 1-drops), a couple of unearths, or you play a 2 drop beforehand which means you only get value out of unearths. Ideally, I guess you would Temur Battle Rage or play another Lupine Prototype, or just opt for Avatar of Discord. The most frustrating thing when I was messing around with the list was not having cards to discard for avatar after trying to get a prototype running. Uba Mask doesn't really have synergy with avatar, Zombie Infestation, or the possible Alms of the Vein. Maybe think about going less all-in with One with Nothing and look at Hollow One? It also turns on the 4-attack cards and seems like it could add a lot of beef. You can also cycle it and return it later with Grave Scrabbler. I know, I know... this is probably just a casual One with Nothing list, but hey... yeah. If you can madness a Grave Scrabbler off of OwN to get something you discarded with the same OwN, it all gets a bit better but idk the ruling on that one.
5 months ago
Myr Servitor? Grave Crawler is also pretty good with the whole zombie theme. Then there are pricier cards like Collective Brutality, Bloodghast, and Liliana of the Veil that might be good. Transgress is good against Emrakul but maybe Brutality is better maindeck and you can sub in Transgress from the sideboard. You can also One with Nothing a Grave Scrabbler to get a Lupine Prototype back. Reassembling Skeleton and Dread Wanderer seem really bad compared to Grave Scrabbler shenanigans. This deck makes me happy, good luck
6 months ago
MTGgoldfish has an article about building a budget mana base that you should check out. One thing it suggests is using painlands, which will always come into play untapped, over checklands, which will come in to play tapped most of the time for you.
Remand isn't good in this deck. Counterspells are best in decks that play at instead speed, and this one doesn't do that. Get a few more creatures and removal spells over that.
Overall, you should use efficient removal over versatile removal. Anguished Unmaking and Oblivion Ring can get rid of anything, but they also cost 3 mana. Better to go with Doom Blade, Go for the Throat or Ultimate Price instead, and keep Anguished Unmaking in the sideboard for when you're up against some deck that has enchantments / artifacts that you need to remove. Better yet, use Fragmentize in the sideboard for that purpose.
Lastly, Prized Amalgam isn't great here. In your deck, 90% of the time it's just a 3/3 for 3 mana, which really isn't good enough for modern. If you want to REALLY take advantage of it, you want to be discarding or milling it and then get it back for free along with something else. If you wanted a deck that was focused on this you'd want 4x Zombie Infestation, 4xGrave Scrabbler, 4xDread Wanderer, and maybe some Haunted Dead and Necromancer's Stockpile along with your amalgams and gravecrawlers. Imagine a game where you cast Zombie Infestation turn 2, discard an Amalgam and a Gravecrawler, and cast the gravecrawler from the graveyard next turn to bring back the amalgam!
8 months ago
8 months ago
landofMordor Thanks for the feedback.
Alms of the Vein is great in certain matchups, but IMO not good enough to mainboard. As you can see I have it in the SB here versus burn and to swap for Fiery Temper against decks without small creatures.
The synergy of Demigod of Revenge in this deck is with Disciple of Deceit, when you untap Diciple you put one god in the grave and get the other one to play for putting both (or more) on the field, or if you need Voldaren Pariah or any of the 5 CMC sideboard cards you get that the first activation, then on second activation put Pariah on the field with madness and get a new god. Demigod also has great synergy with self discard in general, and is awesomw against control since the cast trigger can't be countered. For me it has been super good.
Bomat Courier is a discard outlet and hand refiller that's also aggressive, plus he turns on our Skirsdag High Priest on demand and flips liliana heretic healer, it is also a very good card against Living End which is no the rise in modern. Vexing Devil is good early pressure, turns on skirsdag, flips liliana and comes back the same turn, and can be picked up with Grave Scrabbler for more pressure. This deck goes for burn/aggro and aims to pressure the life total fast, and the self sacrifice effects are an important part of the synergy with making sure there are creatures dying and put in the grave to recur.
So far in testing the copters, skirsdag and attacks have been enough to tap my stuff, but I'm considering adding a 1-off Cultivator's caravan or a 4th copter, you don't really want more than 1 vehicle in play though, so they are often bad topdecks which is why I run 3 and rely on looting and Diciple activations to find one. I used to run this with 4 Caravans and Asylum Seeker for crewing, but I like this version better since the copters doubles as a discard outlet.