Faceless Butcher

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Faceless Butcher

Creature — Nightmare Horror

When Faceless Butcher enters the battlefield, exile target creature other than Faceless Butcher.

When Faceless Butcher leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control. (This is a linked ability, linked to the ability in the first paragraph on this card. Creature cards exiled by this card only return to the battlefield if those exiled cards were exiled by the ability in the first paragraph.)

kingmic0 on Chain me Daddy

2 years ago

Thanks Asgeren

I looked at yours and love the theme. Probably going to switch Baleful Mastery for Faceless Butcher. Repeatable creature exile sounds fantastic. I've been building this deck towards really explosive turns and discard effects to slow down the table. Sengir Autocrat is a great way to get sac fodder and will probably replace on of the higher cost cards in the deck.

BishopAtavist on "Don't send a spell to do a creature's job" Meren

2 years ago

As long as we're talking about Faceless Butcher if you have Dual Nature on the board when you cast him, and you stack the triggers right, you can pretty much exile all your opponents creatures and/or blink all of your creatures that have ETB effects. Putting that into a Glissa, the Traitor deck I'm working on :)

metalflame on "Don't send a spell to do a creature's job" Meren

2 years ago

You should check out my personal meren deck. Ive been working and changing it since its precon release.

Meren of Clan Nel Toth *C*

Horror creatures like Faceless Butcher can permanently exile if you sac them before the first trigger goes off. Its broken, but confirmed. Phyrexian Revoker is really good too, but the best cards need a solid sac outlet to work around.

metalflame on

2 years ago

Spore Frog, Viscera Seer, Disciple of Griselbrand, and many others are considered staples for Meren as they turn her engine to stack experience. Spore frog is an mvp of the deck as a whole. If you have a self sac outlet, create armies with cards like Hornet Queen, and Mycoloth.

Dragon Throne of Tarkir, Overwhelming Stampede, and others like it are great win cons

Victimize, and Eternal Witness, or Golgari Findbroker is broken

One last thing, with self sac you can use horror creatures like Faceless Butcher in a way that permanently exiles the creature and is reusable in a pretty cheap manner. Basically you sac the creature before the removal effect happens, and the effect that gives it back happens before the creature is taken away leaving it permanently exiled

Ca1m_down on BlitzKrieg

2 years ago

Hey, cool list. I think there are a couple of different ways of building Henzie and I feel like you have a couple of different ideas going on here. Here are my thoughts on the different themes you can focus on that synergize with Henzie's abilities:

Cost reduction (making big impactful creature cost as little as possible to cast multiple in a turn every turn) Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma, Nylea, Keen-Eyed, Cloud Key, The Immortal Sun, Marauding Raptor, Heartless Summoning, Krosan Drover, Goblin Anarchomancer, Semblance Anvil

"Blink" (lots of undying, persist, and plenty of "Feign Death" effects to maximize etb/dies triggers and keep the creatures after blitz) Cauldron of Souls, Conjurer's Closet, Kaya's Ghostform, Supernatural Stamina, Blood for Bones, Undying Malice, Minion's Return, Demonic Gifts, Abnormal Endurance, Unholy Indenture, Return to Action, Fake Your Own Death, Flayer of the Hatebound, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Puppeteer Clique, Woodfall Primus, Murderous Redcap, Faceless Butcher

Value Town (maximize card advantage, keep the cards flowing, recursion, keep non-creature count low) Guardian Project, The Great Henge, Greater Good, Lifeblood Hydra, Demonlord Belzenlok, Gorex, the Tombshell, Deadwood Treefolk, Acolyte of Affliction, Evolutionary Leap

I think doing a combination of these three things is solid, but I'd recommend focusing on one and trying to keep the game plan somewhat focused. My brew leans towards Value Town.

Things in your current list that I'm a little skeptical of:

Sundial of the Infinite I think since Henzie is only giving us a small mana discount, this would just be used as a weird "your creatures have haste". I think you often want to take advantage of the "when this dies, draw" rather than 1+ mana cost reduction.

Deathreap Ritual This doesn't trigger if your creatures are dying in your end step to blitz, creatures need to die before the end step for the Ritual trigger to go on the stack. Even if that wasn't the case, I feel like it's better in decks where you're the one making sure it's triggering on each of your opponents turns. What Henzie is doing doesn't really help with doing that. I feel like Moldervine Reclamation would be similar in concept, but more synergistic once the deck is going (but I also don't think it's worth an inclusion).

Living Death How are you filling your yard? Henzie doesn't get cards into your yard very quickly. I think the is a card that fits better in decks that are doing plenty of looting and self milling. It's very likely the other graveyard players will benefit more than you when you cast this.

Most of your creatures that are less than 4 cmc don't seem like they do enough with Henzie to take a slot. I think you'd be better off if your CMC<4 mana stuff was non-creatures that ramp and/or setup for your game plan. I can understand the sac outlet ones if you're really taking advantage of the instant speed aspect, but most of the time you're having to sac end of turn anyway, so I think it'd be better to take advantage of the better payoff of the non-creature sac outlets (like Evo Leap, Vampiric Rites, the various Altars, Greater Good, etc.) As far as mana dorks, I feel like 2 mana ramp spells will help more in the long run. I don't think Henzie is powerful enough of a turn 2 play to risk losing mana sources to pings and/or wraths.

All that being said, it's great seeing other peoples takes on Henzie. I've certainly gained a bunch from reading your comment on my decklist and thinking critically about yours. I'll try and keep my list updated as I play it more. It's been a blast so far. If I didn't already have a black based "blink" deck I think I'd probably lean Henzie towards that strat. :)

PaulMuadDib on Grenzo Take the Wheel

3 years ago

Carnival of souls is quite the pick! I don't think I would run it, seems too easy to kill yourself. Though with enough aristocrats effects, I suppose you can get by.

In my grenzo deck I have about 20 non-creature cards. 2 of them inherently can be used in the graveyard and I decided on the others because I needed more interaction in the group I was playing against. Out of those ones which you aren't running and I don't see in your maybe pile or deck that you should consider are:
Thran Turbine essentially a sol ring that you can use only during your upkeep on grenzo
Elixir of Immortality a way to protect your graveyard from someone trying to exile it
Desecrated Tomb makes each successful grenzo activation net you a Bat-
Tel-Jilad Stylus lets you do 2 things -- repeat an etb of a creature already out, protect a creature from being interacted with. You can even activate grenzo and then use this in response to avoid targeted destruction. I've used this thing on Faceless Butcher to save grenzo from boardwipes.
Dark Privilege lets you block most creatures with grenzo, use it as a sac outlet and increases his power and toughness by 1. It also avoids lots of targeted removal, though not the most popular boardwipes.
Songs of the Damned depending on where the game is, this can be worse than dark ritual or net you 10 mana.

I would additionally suggest giving Warp World a spin because it is some very good disruption, removes enchantments and lands. If you're lucky it can be a red timewalk due to bringing in the lands untapped.

A land you might want is Scorched Ruins. As far as you are concerned, once grenzo is out, this is like playing 2 lands for one. though there are obviously downsides.

My mana base consists of 36 lands and 12 creatures that produce mana, or in the case of Burnished Hart ramp you.
You have 6 out of the 12, and are running palladium myr which isn't a bad pick and I honestly forgot about it. The 5 which I haven't mentioned are Basal Thrull, Generator Servant, Treasure Nabber, Blood Vassal and Catalyst Elemental. With the exception of Nabber, they all replace themselves manawise due to generation 2 mana. I would avoid putting in manadorks that do not make 2 or more mana.

You might additionally want to consider Junktroller which lets you recur creatures or disrupts someone else's grave.

Since a grenzo deck usually does not cast that many spells, you can try throwing in some asymmetrical effects, such as Soot Imp or Eidolon of the Great Revel to leverage that, though with the direction your deck is currently in, that doesn't seem necessary.

Additionally Shrieking Mogg can be used both offensively and defensively. If you know it's on the bottom, you can tap down an opponent before their declare attackers step. If it's your turn, tap down their creatures during your declare attackers step and all of their blockers will be tapped. It also neatly fits into the goblin theme you already have present.

king-saproling on Budget Nikara and Yannik

3 years ago

Sure thing Prospekt. You're mostly right except for this part: "If one is an exiler and one is a blinker, the blinker needs to come in last to exile Yannik or the exiler, whichever is on top". The blinker can come in first as long as it is nested by exiler#1. For example, you could play Felidar Guardian first, then play Faceless Butcher (exiler#1) nesting Felidar. Then when you play Yannik (exiler #2) nesting Butcher, Felidar will return and begin the loop.

To simplify, the first and last creature can be any kind. The second creature has to be an exiler nesting the first. Conveniently you always have access to at least one exiler (Yannik), so in that way it really doesn't matter what the other two creatures are so long as you remember this rule (2nd creature must exile the 1st).

In some situations, you can establish a loop with only two blinkers. For example Felidar Guardian + Restoration Angel can blink each other indefinitely. Payoffs include things like Soul Warden or Good-Fortune Unicorn + Nikara. So this would be an exception to the above rule.

Not sure how different your list is, but in mine there are some creatures with blink effects that don't work as part of an infinite loop (e.g. Charming Prince ) and are only there as a value engine piece. So that's something to keep in mind as well.

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience with your list. It's certainly not an easy deck to pilot and it's a shame some people are so impatient. I hope your future games are more fun!

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