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Tel-Jilad Stylus Discussion
1 month ago
Looks good! You might like these: Heartstone, Illusionist's Bracers, Braid of Fire, Soldevi Digger, Tel-Jilad Stylus, The Cauldron of Eternity, Teferi's Puzzle Box, Herald of Leshrac, Ignition Team, Noosegraf Mob, Thief of Blood, Treasonous Ogre, Archetype of Finality, Temple of Malice, Pitiless Plunderer, Pawn of Ulamog
2 months ago
I'm still editing the deck, but Queen_Lulu, the combos work like this.
Dark-Dweller Oracle, Conspicuous Snoop, Torch Courier (Have to put into the deck), Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Sling-Gang Lieutenant/Mogg Fanatic. (If it's Doomsday you can put the top two cards on the bottom and activate Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and you would get a similar result.)
Find a way to draw a card, then play Dark-Dweller Oracle. Activate it once (for now), and play Conspicuous Snoop. Using the Conspicuous Snoop, play Torch Courier, and sacrifice it targeting Conspicuous Snoop. Now Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is on the top of your library. Conspicuous Snoop has Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker's ability, and has haste thanks to the Torch Courier. Activate the Conspicuous Snoop/Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to make a copy of itself. (It's a non-legendary permanent.) The copy will be untapped, and you can make infinite tokens. Finally, use Dark-Dweller Oracle one last time to get rid of Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. With Sling-Gang Lieutenant/Mogg Fanatic on the top of the library, you can use any Conspicuous Snoop to gun down your opponents.
Combo 3) Play the Snoop and Boggart Harbinger. The Harbinger will put Kiki on top, combo off, then use the last untapped Snoop to copy the Harbinger and put the Lieutenant/Fanatic on the top to win.
A good thing about the last combo it that there is a failsafe in case you somehow get Kiki onto the battlefield. If you have Tel-Jilad Stylus, plus the Snoop and the Harbinger, use Kiki to copy the Harbinger, but with that ability on the stack, use the Stylus to put Kiki on the bottom of your library, and then the Harbinger will tutor Kiki to the top.
1 year ago
I also like the Workhorse/Reito Lantern idea. It didn't make sense at first glance, and then I'm like... OHHHHH....
Awesome suggestions, and I will absoultely test them. Ordering all the card tonight. I have the lantern in already from a previous tweak that I never updated. Will refresh my list this week. Thanks!
1 year ago
Hello! Have you considered Workhorse ? It's amazing with something that can amazing with something like Reito Lantern . Also please consider Tel-Jilad Stylus . I built a Grenzo (power 3<) and it works wonders. Particularly for your deck, you can use tel-jilad to put Grenzo on the bottom after you activate Grenzo to return him to the battlefield as a 'makeshift' flicker.
1 year ago
Thanks for all the feedback, multimedia.
Tel-Jilad Stylus absolutely belongs in this deck. I can't believe I don't have one in my collection. Need to get one. It can easily replace Vessel of Endless Rest , but note that the Vessel was there for its ability to move something back to the library and less for its mana ability.
I agree on the baubles. The deck has so little card draw, that's really the only reason for them to be in there, but they could go.
1 year ago
Hey, you could upgrade the mana rocks that you're already playing? All except Sol Ring and Monolith of course. All the rocks I suggested ETB untapped. Dragon's Hoard for instance for the same mana cost has much more repeatable value than Vessel of Endless Rest . Hoard is both a mana rock and a draw engine. Mind Stone also has more value then Fire Diamond because Stone ETB untapped and can be sac to draw later on when you don't need ramp.
The mana rocks you play don't have to make red mana, it would nice if they did, but they don't have to because there's 31 Mountains here. Red mana is not a problem; the rocks just need to be able to make mana, colorless mana, for ramp to get Zirilan or another Dragon onto the battlefield faster. There's a lot of high CMC Dragons here; if Zirilan gets stuck in the Command Zone due to Commander cost or disrupted and you're unable to use his ability to cheat Dragons onto the battlefield then you want a backup plan to be able to cast Dragons. Mana rocks for ramp is a good backup plan. Semi-budget rocks such as Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus are good when playing lots of high CMC cards.
Cards like Mishra's Bauble and Urza's Bauble are fine, but I think they would be better as mana rocks. Blood Frenzy and Volcanic Offering are okay, but they're a one time shot spell and as a one time use they lose a lot of playability. One time effects from cards like Chaos Warp and Gamble are worth it because these effects for the mana cost are unique in red/powerful for red. Fling is fine if you have ways to repeatably cast it, but as a one time effect with only one Dragon it's very lackluster.
Consider Goblin Welder ? Welder, Feldon of the Third Path and Steel Hellkite have great interaction because Hellkite is an artifact Dragon. The tokens that Feldon creates are artifacts you can use one of these artifact creature tokens at instant speed with Welder to sac it to reanimate Hellkite or any other artifact. Welder can also be a way to reanimate an artifact sac/tuck outlet which you need on the battlefield otherwise the Dragon you cheat into play with Zirilan will be exiled end of your turn. Welder also helps to assemble the Monolith + Rings artifact combo. Solemn Simulacrum is very good with Welder and Feldon because he's an artifact who gives you value when he ETB and when he dies.
Cards like Welder and Feldon can benefit from cards that can put other cards into your graveyard. Consider adding Daretti, Scrap Savant , Faithless Looting and Gamble? Daretti is repeatable draw/graveyard enabler/reanimate artifact. Consider Tel-Jilad Stylus ? The most mana cost effective way to tuck a Dragon back into your library. Artifacts are honestly just as important for your deck's strategy then Dragons are.
Cards to consider adding:
- Dragon's Hoard
- Mind Stone
- Fellwar Stone or Everflowing Chalice
- Thran Dynamo or Gilded Lotus
- Goblin Welder
- Daretti, Scrap Savant
- Faithless Looting
- Tel-Jilad Stylus
Cards to consider cutting:
- Fire Diamond
- Vessel of Endless Rest
- Mishra's Bauble
- Urza's Bauble
- Blood Frenzy
- Volcanic Offering
- Whispersilk Cloak
- Voyager Staff
1 year ago
1 year ago
Thanks to everyone that commented for the great feedback.
There are a number of cards mentioned that are already on my acquire list that I want for the deck that I just didn't have handy because they are already in my Scion/Ur-Dragon deck or others. This includes Illusionist's Bracers , Flameshadow Conjuring , Dragonmaster Outcast , Thousand-Year Elixir , Dragon Tyrant , High Market and Tel-Jilad Stylus . I should have included a 'too acquire' list.
There are some cards I cut from my first draft simply do to overall mana curve. I always build my decks too high and so I deliberately go back and reassess everything 6 CMC and up. I found this to be the case when I cut Dragon Mage , Utvara Hellkite , and Scourge of Valkas (avoiding 3 colored in the casting cost...I know, I know, it's a mono deck, but I still find away to get locked there somehow). I also did find Scourge of Valkas meeting my 'answers' need when it was tutored, but I can see @TypicalTimmy's combo as fun shenanigans, so I might need to make room for them.
As for rocks, I had trimmed both Fellwar Stone and Ruby Medallion because I went more on utility in other areas. The same sort of went for Dragon's Hoard . i'd be interested in suggestion on what to cut for any of these. I did leave both Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower deliberately out as the deck just never puts you in that position to need them.
The honest answer on the City of Brass , Command Tower , Mana Confluence , Path of Ancestry , and Reflecting Pool is I ran out of the unhinged mountains I wanted to use and need to get more :). The command tower was an easy add as it doesn't lose much aside from being affected by anything that targets non-basic lands. The Path of Ancestry was because I wanted the advantage of the scry and then the ping lands were because I need more unhinged mountains.
I had Gamble in the deck, but cut it in favor of others. Suggestions on what to pull out for it?
Chaos Warp is in the deck.