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Creature — Nightmare Horror
When Faceless Butcher enters the battlefield, exile target creature other than Faceless Butcher.
When Faceless Butcher leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to the battlefield under its owner's control.
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Faceless Butcher Discussion
1 month ago
dlamars "At the beginning of your upkeep" are the important words there.
You can't cast it during your untap phase (unless you give it flash somehow), so it won't be on the battlefield to check for counters at the beginning of your upkeep.
Dark Depths doesn't use the words "at the beginning of your upkeep". It says "when Dark Depths has no ice counters on it..." so it continually checks throughout the game for said ice counters.
The wording on a card is one of the most important clues to what exactly the card does.
Hope that helped :)
1 month ago
High Market and Myriad Landscape are two great lands for this archetype, i can really recommend them.
Personally, when playing black EDH decks, i was suprised how often removal restictions like "destroy a nonblack creature" hurt me, and therefore i try to really limit the number of those restrictions to the bare minimum. Based on that, i suggest you replace Nekrataal with Noxious Gearhulk since that doesn't care what you want to kill, and gains you some life as well.
Since you have a minor reanimation theme going on, Baleful Force might be useful for you. That guy just draws a huge amount of cards over a few turns.
I have had some really good experiences with Faceless Butcher, often used to exile my own creature to reuse ETB triggers or return it after it was stolen by Treachery, Bribery or Animate Dead.
2 months ago
I very much like this take on Alesha and also your detailed explanations of the combo breakdowns. Well done!
This deck seems to have it all, I cannot think of much for helpful suggestions. There's Faceless Butcher which is just a black Fiend Hunter if you are looking to give that mechanic greater odds of showing up. And if you are pulling off the ETB-LTB loop with a creature of choice, Chittering Rats might be a good utility to bleed your opponents of answers, like an ever painful Stifle.
+1, and lots of fun!
3 months ago
@ amh62993 - This deck is horrific!
...bad puns aside, allow me to suggest a few things for your consideration.
Consuming Aberration is a card I think has a place in any Dimir build. Many think it is only relevant in mill decks, but really this beast just minds its own business. Sure, you won't win the game with this as your only mill engine. But you will definitely put your opponents at a disadvantage while you get a huge beater.
The following creatures are part of the Consuming Aberration Fan Club: Sewer Nemesis is the president; Nemesis of Reason is the treasurer; Nighthowler hypes up the group; Guiltfeeder is the jerk that makes fun of people outside the club; Geralf's Mindcrusher is the guy that only comes like twice, never to be seen again.
Phyrexian Revoker is wonderful commander hate (or any creature with an activated ability too good to let happen)
Mindleech Mass is expensive to put down, but that ability...
Void Maw can be a finisher late-game.
Greater Harvester (which honestly feels more like a Demon than a Horror)
And, of course, Phyrexian Librarian
Good luck, and happy deck-teching!
3 months ago
You actually made me look at my deck and realize I hadn't updated it in a long time. I had listed a few cards, which were no longer in the deck, that I suggested to cut. one of the few cards that i have had a lot of fun with is Overseer of the Damned, really solid card with good utility. Also Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is super easy to combo with. Triskelion or Walking Ballista both go infinite with him alone. Something i noticed while playing Meren was that you could stop someone from playing their artifacts and enchantments super easily and creatures not terribly hard either. However, indestuctable creatures are annoying and hard to deal with as well as opposing graveyard recursion affects. to combat them i enlisted Faceless Butcher. Another good one which i only have 1 copy of is Duplicant. These are both really good cards to use multiple times. butcher is a bit harder to work with but costs less mana too. I am going to copy paste a scenario for you to show why he is very good.
1) Faceless Butcher enters the battlefield, triggering its ability. 2) Butcher's Controller puts the ability on the Stack, choosing the target creature. 3) Butcher's Controller then uses an Instant or Ability to Sacrifice the Butcher, triggering its" Leaves the Battlefield" effect. 4) The "Leaves the Battlefield" effect was put on the Stack more recently than the "Enters the Battlefield" effect, so it will resolve first. 5) When the "Leaves the Battlefield" effect resolves, nothing has been Exiled by the Faceless Butcher, so there is nothing to return to the Battlefield. 6) When the "Enters the Battlefield" effect resolves, the target creature gets Exiled.
3 months ago
5 months ago
Any reason for no Key to the City? I feel like that card was designed exclusively for Alesha. You discard a creature you want to reanimate, making her unblockable, then just put it out onto the field attacking! Admittedly might not work as well with the greaves, but that's why I usually trade them out for Swiftfoot Boots. It's more mana but it gets around the shroud.
While I like the Faceless Butcher/Fiend Hunter, I always worry that they're not as good without sac outlets for the permanent exile. I usually choose Duplicant, Garza's Assassin, or King Macar, the Gold-Cursed (who works particularly well with Reconnaissance). Big Game Hunter is also particularly good in this build - you can either discard him and pay the madness cost or just reanimate him to kill a fattie.
5 months ago
I assume Fiend Hunter and Tidehollow Sculler are in for their interaction with sac outlets (I.e. sac them with their etb triggers on the stack to permanently exile what they target) so for a little welcome redundancy I suggest Mesmeric Fiend and Faceless Butcher, since these two creatures can pull the same shenanigans.