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Creature — Illusion
When Dream Stalker enters the battlefield, return a permanent you control to its owner's hand.
Dream Stalker Discussion
12 hours ago
Hey, good start and upgrade of the precon. Nice Oko, Thief of Crowns :)
The creatures that make Chulane a real value engine are the ones that can bounce themselves back to your hand after they ETB (enter the battlefield):
With Chulane you can cast one of these creatures which draws a card and lets you put a land onto the battlefield from your hand. The creature can then return to your hand and you can cast it again. As long as you play a land that ETB untapped you can keep casting one of these creatures which can make a lot of draw and ramp. Whitemane and Drake are the two best of the bunch. Whitemane because it has flash meaning you can cast it an instant speed triggering Chulane during your opponents turns. Drake is only one mana making it the best to loop casting it to get value.
These creatures and to get more land drops from Chulane's trigger can benefit from more lands in the manabase. More basic lands because you can make mana the turn you put a basic land onto the battlefield and basic lands are budget land options. Normally 36 lands is a fine amount for a Commander deck, but when your General, in this case Chulane, cares about lands then playing more lands can help to get more out of Chulane.
These are some budget lands to consider adding. Mana creatures are good with Chulane because they can help to make ramp to play him faster and/or afterwards they can be cast to trigger Chulane. They're the better ramp options to play because they're creatures.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Azorius Guildgate
- Selesnya Guildgate
- New Benalia
- Meandering River
- Woodland Stream
- Tranquil Expanse
- Charmed Sleep
- Planewide Celebration
- Circuitous Route
- Firemind Vessel
- Commander's Sphere
- Parhelion II
- Jace's Ruse
- Jace, Arcane Strategist
- Feasting Troll King
- Jace's Projection
I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
@ClockworkSwordfish: I think I might also have some ideas for cuts as well:
Voidmage Apprentice : This deck already has enough Counterspell use, & is repeatable w/o needing to flip the table. There isn't that much danger from Split Second stuff anyway...
All down to you in case you accept these 3 as cut worthy.
Thanks for the help so far. :)
1 month ago
I love your decklist, I love your playbook, I love this take. It's a hot take. I was about to suggest a bunch of BS about cards that would make it look more every go-infinite Najeela Warrior Ball Deck, but you can just EDHREC that. I will suggest Cryptolith Rite because its budget Druids' Repository and Earthcraft , and dorks is the key to the deck, so why not dork out hard? (Also, I don't know if your win strategy necessarily needs Najeela online, but that is the most obvious).
What I want to do is talk about abusing your untap enchants. I have a lot of experience with Intruder Alarm , but this thing with the Jeskai Ascendancy : magnificent. Didn't this idea get a little play in standard? Anyway.
Intruder Alarm first: Cheap creatures that bounce themselves like Shrieking Drake or Man-o'-War or Dream Stalker . There's Stonecloaker and Whitemane Lion in white, too. Green has Temur Sabertooth which is super nasty for saving other creatures as well as completing your loop. Great with ETB Triggers.
Jeskai Ascendancy is what I'm really excited about. I've never brewed with this card, but it's got huge potential. You have enough colors and sources to make this one really sparkle. There's buyback cards: Capsize , Elvish Fury , Fanning the Flames , Haze of Rage , Mind Games maybe, Sprout Swarm Definitely (works with Intruder Alarm, too), and many lesser ones. Another Tempest-theme comes in the form of a cycle of Aura Crown of Flames , Shimmering Wings , Whip Silk , and Flickering Ward . The last two are playable (you can make a lot of green and usually white with creatures?), but a lot of this means you have to be hitting at least one strange mana color. I would consider looking at some of the "any color" dorks or Gemstone Array Effects. (That's the best one because it's a battery, too.) ... Priest of Titania ...
I would get my draw from creatures. Beast Whisperer is my dude right now. There's elves and wizards that etb trigger with draw (which would be good to bounce and storm off with, too) and would synergize with tribal cards you are running if they're just lame ducks after being played.
If you want your jank to really clank, consider some more tutors, too. I'm thinking cheaper Enlightened Tutor , Mystical Tutor , Worldly Tutor , Gamble ... I guess that's not too cheap, but way cheaper Vampiric Tutor or Grim Tutor . The reveal might be too much information in your play group, though, so I could see leaving them out.
All that, I just love this mashup. do whatever. I can't wait to see how you evolve this.
2 months ago
Hello, why exactly do you play a food chain combo? Did I miss something? What is your goal with infinite mana?
Dream Stalker A 2cmc Shrieking Drake
Rhystic Study Card Draw if your commander isn't out
Carpet of Flowers Ramp
Noxious Revival Recursion, can disrupt certain combos
Cyclonic Rift Disrupts boards, clears the field for a last swing
Beast Within Any Removal
Temur Sabertooth A bit expensive cmc wise, but bouncing is your friend in this deck
Lotus Cobra Pretty Strong interaction with the additional lands from Chulane
Looks great, but I really want to know, what the infinite mana is for. And how do you flashhulk win without chulane and a creature in your hand? With Elvish visionary and similar creatures? and Probe? You may consider something instant speed.
Thanks for this list :)
2 months ago
Ahem, so first things first - your lack of deck description makes things really difficult for me, or anyone to really give meaningful feedback as I along with you apparently don't know what you're trying to do with this deck. A good start however for writing up a good deck description would be Epochalyptik's Do you want to write a Primer?.
At first glace all I can say is that 46 Creatures is alot - almost half of your deck. While the creatures you chose all provide excellent value, maybe you could cut a few to make room for some more interaction - which your deck lacks severely. Having a few good removal options in form of:
Could buy you time, especially if your opponents keep removing your commander - which in my opinion is the deck's greatest strength and weakness. Since you're in blue, it never hurts to spec into some counter magic:
You can at least have some say when your opponents target your board when you start to get out of control as you cast more and more things. I remember seeing an interesting post about Chulane on the cEDH subreddit, this particular post detailed a bunch of combos - i'll leave the post here but here's just a sample:
posted by shay0n:
Chulane, Teller of Tales
(known as Triggerbois)
- Have Chulane and Aluren on battlefield, one Triggerboi in hand.
- Cast Triggerboi for free with Aluren .
- Draw with Chulane , putting any land onto the battlefield (if fetch, crack for untapped lands).
- Return Triggerboi to hand with own ability.
- Loop until you have Laboratory Maniac in hand, or hit tutor that can get LM.
- Cast LM with Aluren with one card left in deck , triggering Chulane and drawing a card.
- Cast Triggerboi one last time for win.
There's plenty there on the sub-reddit to help you go down the proverbial rabbit hole, so I encourage you to check it out and see what combo(s) take your interest. Again I want to emphasize this - please make a proper deck description - it not only helps you but everyone who visits your page. Good luck in your deck building. Also, +1 - for a new deck.
2 months ago
As said in the other Chulane deck I saw, Aluren is such a great card that there's no reason not to play it.
Aluren + Shrieking Drake , Whitemane Lion , Man-o'-War , Dream Stalker , Fleetfoot Panther , or Silver Drake is infinite castings. Playing into 3 times as many creatures to combo off with is, statistically, far more favorable and leads to a rather peculiar if not overlooked Bant Storm win.
Check out my build. I definitely keep the Food Chain combo in, since it can be a turn 2 win, and it is very good, but I also went balls out and threw a huge heft of Aluren spice in there.
I am also very fond of things like Collector Ouphe to simply shut down Sol Ring , Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , and given Mox that's legal, and even opposing Aetherfluxes (in which case I will Aluren win with Laboratory Maniac , Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , or even Approach of the Second Sun .
2 months ago
Not a bad start but your avg cmc needs some work. 24 non-creatures is also pretty high in Animar... I'd shoot for 16 or less and replace spells with etb's.
I'd whittle your high cmc Eldrazi down a little. I.e. 1 Ula, 1 Kozi, and drop the rest that cost 10+. Bounce enablers let you reuse cast triggers and etb's... consider Cloudstone Curio , Equilibrium , Dream Stalker , and Shrieking Drake .
Feel free to check out my list for inspiration. I've been playing Animar for about 5 years now and the list is great for fairly competitive metas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Animar, Gaea's Hemorrhoid
2 months ago
Goretast This was my Roon of the Hidden Realm deck until Chulane got spoiled and well So Long Roon!!! We'll see you some other time. Once i procure a Glimpse of Nature it's immediately slotting in for Beck / Call . Shrieking Drake , Whitemane Lion , and Dream Stalker may eventually find themselves a slot in the deck just not currently.
Dream Stalker occurrence in decks from the last year
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