Vizier of the Menagerie
Creature — Cleric
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|Have (3)||, metalmagic , IcyLightning|
|Want (5)||brownwaterboys , shrapnelmagnet , Dawni , DishHD , Rabu|
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|Amonkhet (AKH)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Vizier of the Menagerie occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
Vizier of the Menagerie Discussion
1 week ago
I like to run no less then 10 draw effects. Yours are nice because a lot of them can be repeated but I'd still get that number up a bit. Consider finding a spot for Keeper of Fables , Soul of the Harvest , Vizier of the Menagerie , Garruk's Packleader , Ohran Frostfang , Lurking Predators , and Etali, Primal Storm . Those are listed in no particular order just get the ones you can. Etali is likely the strongest of them.
As you play you'll find times when Nikya isn't in play. I know she really doens't like non-creatures but over time a few say no more than 10 wouldn't be a bad idea. Especially ones like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach . Those can easily be cast before your commander and grab lands which your commander really likes.
Any adventure cards would be worth thinking about.
1 week ago
Hey Last_Laugh, thank you for your suggestions! You are right, im intentionally avoiding specifically Cloudstone Curio . The only infinite thing i have is Ancestral Statue , which i put in because it comboes with Animar by itself and kinda for the lulz. I've tried to focus on cards that generally work by themselves and with Animar, without needing other cards to combo with. Lots of hydras as you can see :D Ive tried going for consistency rather than power plays.
My ramp choices are mainly because i want my ramp on 2cmc so that i have a decent turn 2 play that helps fix my mana for turn 3 Animar as consistently as possible. I do have Wood Elves already though. Beastcaller Savant could be worth a spot.
I might consider Soul of the Harvest instead of Zendikar Resurgent , since they almost do the same thing and the discount from Animar helps the former and not the latter. Not sure my deck is creature heavy enough for Vizier of the Menagerie , though i might be completely wrong.
Fierce Empath could probably be good. Though it has few targets, they are all pretty powerful.
Again, thank you for your suggestions, constructive critisism is always welcome! I'll also take a look at your decks for sure.
1 week ago
Alright, I have several suggestions for you and I don't want to appear overly critical. The main thing I'm noticing that needs work is your choice of non-creature spells... most of those effects you want on a body in Animar (i.e. ramp, removal, etc.)
Also worth asking... are you avoiding infinite combos on purpose? Want to ask before I suggest any.
Land Untap/Alternative Ramp: Cloud of Faeries and Stadium Vendors won't go infinite in your current build. Peregrine Drake will with Temur Sabertooth. On that note, consider Equilibrium as another bounce option.
Draw: Primordial Sage and Soul of the Harvest are your best repeatable draw (that you don't already run.). Tishana, Voice of Thunder is worth including also and Vizier of the Menagerie is amazing here as well.
Tutor: Fierce Empath
Let me know if you're picking up what I'm putting down... I can help suggest cuts (mainly from your high cmc non-creatures like Doubling Season, Primal Vigor, Zendikar Resurgent and your current non-creature ramp). In the meantime, feel free to check out my list for ideas... it's not budget friendly as a whole but still got plenty of options. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Animar, Gaea's Hemorrhoid
2 weeks ago
munky702, thanks for the interesting suggestion. Kydele could work very well with Finale of Devastation and Mirror Entity . It probably fits best in the slot of Beast Whisperer or Vizier of the Menagerie . I will definitely give it a try.
1 month ago
No. The Anvil doesn’t provide you with mana, it only reduces the cost of the appropriate spell by 2 generic mana. Shrieking Drake would cost to cast still.
2 months ago
Nice, Karametra is super fun. Check out my list, you may find some goodies to add. Priority adds might be Burgeoning , Heroic Intervention , Lotus Cobra , Aura Shards , Tireless Tracker , Knight of Autumn , God-Eternal Oketra , and/or Vizier of the Menagerie .
2 months ago
So I added Mobilize in my Chulane, Teller of Tales deck too and I think you're correct about it being not good enough because it's sorcery speed. I think it's a little better in Chulane because I can keep the combo going with my dorks but Marwyn doesn't have the natural card draw that Chulane does.
You're also correct about Leyline. I am just getting into cEDH and that card seems like it would do broken things and it has in my casual tuned Marwyn deck but you're absolutely correct in that it's probably a dead card 99%. I like that it can be a mana sink and I can add +1/+1 counters when I have nothing else better to do, but thats more a casual need than a cEDH need.
Ivy Lane Denizen I get your reasoning and it may be that in my more casual build it was better but I always love casting a mana dork and getting 2 counters on Marwyn. I also had a small deathtouch elf that I loved pumping up with +1/+1 counters to stop attackers (block Tymna) but I get your reasoning like you said.
After reviewing your list I still think Vizier of the Menagerie is a great card but with under 30 creatures I agree that it may not be best utilized in this deck. I would still try it out but I think that if you had 35+ creatures it would be better.
Heroic Intervention seems like a bonkers card that I feel is under utilized. It gives hexproof and indestructible to ALL permanents not just a single target. To me me this card is in the same league with Autumn's Veil and Veil of Summer . I know they are fundamentally different in what they do but they both seem so good to me.
I don't know the Heritage Druid combo/loop but I get it. I think Incubation Druid gets better with Evolution Sage Ivy Lane Denizen Gyre Sage and Rishkar, Peema Renegade which aren't in the deck and probably not very cEDH-y. There are just better more consistent small 1 drop dorks.
I get your argument on Kenrith's Transformation but I think there have to be some better options (I don't know what they are) but it does replace itself and it takes care of a threat and turns it into a 3/3 which ultimately isn't a big concern.
3 months ago
My list certainly isn't cEDH but thought I'd through in some of my favourites as food for thought.