Tolaria West enters the battlefield tapped.
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Tolaria West Discussion
1 week ago
Hi :D thanks for the upvote and the sweet comment, friend.
Cavern of Souls is a very interesting include! For me, every Orvar cast after the first two or so games with my playgroup has been a sweaty experience. It's too easy to deny this deck it's main engine. What makes the include more interesting is Tolaria West being able to tutor it up, and the possibility of cloning it and naming another creature type like drake or faerie.
I'm not sure if the include changes much in regards to High Tide . With every land untapper except Palinchron , in combination with High Tide , you can get a mana positive loop with just two or three islands on the board. However, I haven't made much use of High Tide so far. It has felt more like a backup plan in the deck in my experience.
1 month ago
How about transmute cards? They can tutor up any card depending on it's CMC.
Tolaria West transmutes for any 0 mana cost card. Dizzy Spell transmutes for any 1 mana cost card. Muddle the Mixture transmutes for any 2 mana cost card. Drift of Phantasms transmutes for any 3 mana cost card.
1 month ago
Hi NetholonTheArchmage !
One year has passed and I'm always in love with your deck.
I spended many time to change some cards of your deck. I find that Pendant of Prosperity , Tolaria West and Dack Fayden fit very well in the deck, as Humility or Land Tax , but you probably already know for those ones.
Arcane Lighthouse and/or Shadowspear are great cards to deal with shroud/hexproof/indestructible, depending your playgroup. It's same for graveyard hate, but I'm still looking for a good card cause I also play with my graveyard.
Trying to replace Robe of Mirrors (I don't like aura, they vanish with board wipes), I find Spiritual Asylum , wich seems perfect on the spot. But I don't feel confortable with the shroud effect it give. Sure, it protect your creatures and (most important) your lands, but it cancel the Zedruu's ability on lands, wich I'm used to give . Still keeping in mind Lightning Greaves , but it can't be tutored with Wild Research
Finally, thank you for your work. It really make me love Zedruu, and gived me the strength to start building a deck (I mean, ctrl c - ctrl v your deck). Best of luck to you, can't wait for next update
1 month ago
I made the CMC comment only in case the OP did not know that they have a CMC. I have run into this before at casual tables when someone has wanted to transmute Tolaria West to get a land and encountered players who did not know land has a CMC of 0.
1 month ago
Lanzo493 haha, you're right of course, i was confusing them with Springleaf Drum which isn't in the deck. so now they aren't, either - we'll go with your suggestion of Hall of the Bandit Lord , and Tolaria West will help ensure we have a chance of finding it (we won't, but it's a lovely dream, isn't it?)
Grand Architect seems a little subpar here; although there are 5 different blue creatures in the deck, for 46 slots, architect mana can't cast arcum
this deck isn't looking to go infinite here, so infinite mana isn't necessary
1 month ago
bushido_man96 A little hard to justify Tron since I can only tutor for the pieces with Tolaria West , but honestly I run Dark Depths just for Thespian's Stage so I should probably just run em. Thanks!
1 month ago
Ok, so as a beforehand this may be a longer post because I'm debating turning my casual Orvar list into a cEDH list myself. So it'll be a bit of out loud brainstorming :P Hope it's helpful and not TLDR...
Lands: Tolaria West as an additional tutor for Mystic Sanctuary or Nykthos (or in a pinch a mana rock or pact of negation on a combo turn)
Swarmyard can provide some incidental protection for Orvar
Things I'm considering that aren't on your list Creatures:
Spellstutter Sprite With Orvar out it hits any two drop. being able to gradually increase it's effectiveness with one mana cantrips seems good, especially when you are also playing cloud of fairies... which leads me into
Glen Elendra Archmage is a little high on the CMC side, but we're already running lots of 4 drops and a six drop as a potential win con. So I think at first glance the downside is negligible. Plus it plays into the inadvertent fairy theme...
Artisan of Forms is literally the best creature on the field. Both hers and Orvar's ability trigger's on cast. So you just stack her trigger first then copy whatever she becomes and get that as the token. Instant speed Dockside Extortionist ?
Vedalken AEthermage Literally only running for wizard cycling. Most of our outlets are wizards. In your current list you have 8. all worth tutoring for IMO. I'm currently running like 9-10 so it's pretty impactful
Venser, Shaper Savant Acts like spellstutter sprite, but hit's anything. And you can just let the copy go away upon resolution of the legend rule.
Spells: For sake of brevity I'll just list the cards you don't have on your list that I'm considering and why I'm considering them...
Glamerdye can target lands (which is probably one of Orvar's strongest abilities) and it has retrace, so it's recurable, and instant speed. all plusses.
Dizzy Spell tutor or copy trigger. essentially a modal spell. very good.
Cerulean Wisps cantrips and untaps a creature, potentially very useful depending on cedh meta. I have Kraum and Pako in mine so having a blocker is often needed. Also can help slow annoying tymna.
Rescue is interesting, still not sold on it. But it does give you a copy of a creature, and allows you to save/replay an etb critter. Orvar is able to mitigate losing creatures by making copies of them usually, but he can't save himself and copying into a board wipe does nothing.
Blink of an Eye target's permanents, can draw you a card and there is another card with a different name that does the same thing
Flood of Recollection Pet card of mine, single use but I like it on turns I want to go off with High Tide and don't want to exile it with JVP or Snapcaster. works well with Narset's reversal too...which I'm not running lol.
Run Away Together considering this as a way to deal with a threat and copy one of my creatures.
Cards I love:
Energy Tap this is great. didn't even consider it. solid inclusion.
Time Spiral and transmute artifact... mentioning these just because I'm jealous...
Treachery Ditto ^
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces love the silly synergy with Nykthos. Ridiculous.
Pyre of Heroes This is silly, didn't even see this spoiled. Birthing pod in colorless? are they crazy!
Cards I'm "meh" on:
Memory Crystal You're only running (I think) two buyback spells. So most of the time it's a dead card. I see Drift of Phantasms, but id rather be tutoring for the buyback card or something more impactful. Also copying sapphire medallion helps buyback and other non buyback spells.
Drift of Phantasms very linear tutor in cedh imo. I get that it hits hullbreacher, spellseeker, etc. I think I would personally rather slot additional control. But if you love the card run the card.
Inga Rune-Eyes Not impactful enough for me in a 4 drop slot. scrying one statistically is akin to drawing half a card, so three is one and a half?. You could run the 3 drop fairy that draws you a card for more fairy synergy lol... sorry, maybe I have a fairy problem. Also, I'm not sure how often you'll get her second line to happen. I don't see how you trigger that without investing multiple cards to copy her? unless I'm missing something? does it happen often for you?
Grim Monolith without an infinite mana outlet I don't think it does enough. Also I didn't Sol Ring in your list easy swap?
Extraplanar Lens In general I think this is a bad card. ramp it out early and someone smashes it, your down a land and probably a turn. Plus you have to imprint a land every time you make a copy of it. so the downside for their removal becomes even greater in my estimation. Orvar already ramps well enough to not need this card. but high risk high reward I guess.
I'm also soft on the tribute/trinket mage. They're good for the thing they grab but they're not ultimately what I want to be copying. you could run Shipwreck Dowser and Salvager of Secrets instead and lean into the Archaeomancer synergies, but then our cost is getting higher, and obviously you could copy what they tutor for... back to the balance of creature targets vs permanent targeting spells...
I think that's it... If I missed why you are running something let me know, like I said I'm brainstorming myself so the discourse will be super helpful for me, hope this was helpful for you! Also I should go back and read comments... yeah I'm that guy...
Thanks for posting the list!
1 month ago
Memnarch is dope.
Forsaken Monument also goes inf w basalt monolith and is useful generally.
I like Tezzeret the Seeker to fetch your Sol Ring or Mana Crypt ... wait. Where's your sol ring!!!!
Also would run Arcane Denial , Swan Song , Delay , Disallow , Dissipate , or Wizard's Retort over cancel. Anything but cancel!
Also High Tide is nice but if you run this or Caged Sun i would cut the urzas land and command tower in favor of islands. is just soo good. No need to mess with urzas lands unless you have dedicated land tutors like Tolaria West .
Just some thoughts, cheers and have fun!!