Draconic Disciple

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Draconic Disciple

Creature — Human Shaman

: Gain one mana of any colour.

, , Sacrifice Draconic Disciple: Create a 5/5 red Dragon creature token with flying.

Slashdance on A Thunder of Dragons

6 months ago

@Housegheist

Scaled Nurturer is great, though I'm trying to stay away from creature ramp a bit because the deck gets a lot of board wipes against it and the artifacts are doing a great job. That said, if anything, I might consider replacing Caged Sun for it, which I may very likely do! Thanks.

Earthquake Dragon is already in the deck. =)

Rishkar's Expertise is great, but I'm not sure I can really take advantage of it. The pure card draw is awesome, but the expense of man is high. This is generally made up for in the fact you can drop a 5 CMC creature for free, but I only really have 8 viable targets for that, so it's not as likely that I'll have a 4-5 CMC in hand. I've been torn on adding it to the list.

Garruk's Uprising was in the deck originally but replaced with Elemental Bond. EB works a little better if I have something like Caged Sun out for +1/+1, as then I can get extra card draw when playing smaller creatures like Draconic Disciple, and I generally prefer to diversify non-essential spells, so at the moment I don't want to duplicate that kind of a card draw effect. That said, if I end up removing Caged Sun, then I may swap back to Garruk's Uprising since the cantrip on casting is nice, as is the Trample. Hmmm, yeah, really thinking about dropping Caged Sun now, lol. It's hard to do though, it's a huge mana advantage that I can get out on turn 3 or 4 sometimes, and I really, really need that mana. Ugh.

Same goes for Return of the Wildspeaker versus Hunter's Prowess, which basically does all of what RotW does that only let's you do one of for the same price.

Thanks for the great suggestions, I'll be mulling them over for a bit.

Yogie on Flight of Dragons

6 months ago

kamarupa - great suggestions!

I agree with you on Tamiyo's Safekeeping and I'll make that swap. The extra life from Sheltering Word is nice but not necessary. Tamiyo's Safekeeping is a fairly new card, right? I probably missed it when I skimmed through Kamigava: Neon Dynasty.

I play Draconic Disciple mainly as a versatile mana dork but you bring up some fair points. The problem I see with Llanowar Elves is that it produces only green mana and the dragons need a lot of red mana. Ignoble Hierarch, however, looks very interesting and Fertile Ground is another good suggestion. You make a good case for T1 spells which puts Ignoble Hierarch as the stronger candidate at first glance. I'll playtest and see what I end up with.

Great land suggestions as well! I'll likely add copies of Haven of the Spirit Dragon when I make tweaks to this deck. Lands are honestly the card type I have the least knowledge about, which is why my decks all play essentially the same set of lands xD

kamarupa on Flight of Dragons

6 months ago

Nice deck.

A few suggestions: Tamiyo's Safekeeping seems better than Sheltering Word, providing Indestructible in addition to Hexproof while also working on any permanent you control instead of just any creature and all for only half the MV. The only downside is less lifegain, which I acknowledge may be a big attraction for you.

Fertile Ground seems as good or better than Draconic Disciple. If you had more Forests and a higher budget, I'd suggest Utopia Sprawl. That said, Ignoble Hierarch (and of course Birds of Paradise) would be great fit(s) as well. I think even a plain old Llanowar Elves might be better than the Disciple. It's seems like the game would have to go on a long time before you have 7 mana best spent on a 5/5 token, and 3MV seems steep for a dork. I also get that it can be more about flavor than efficiency.

On that note, I notice you don't have any 1MV spells. Now I myself have a number of decks without any 1 drops and I think scrying T1 is about as good as it gets without any spells to cast, but it's a tough pill to swallow that a ramp deck isn't going to start rolling until T2-T3. Since none of the ramp spells are dragons, your best ramp card doesn't help you get more ramp into play. I'd really like to see a 1MV ramp spell here, but even a Lightning Bolt would be useful.

Other possible budget-ish lands: Secluded Courtyard, Unclaimed Territory, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Field of Ruin, Scavenger Grounds

Alpine Moon could be useful in your sideboard.

Beginner-Budget-Builder on Dragonstorm Rainbow

1 year ago

A lot of really great cards!

If you are going for Dragonstorm , consider cutting some of your creatures, making your ramp efficient, throw some tutors in, etc. Some of the creatures you have that don't do much to help you, and ones I have cut, are Taigam, Ojutai Master , Steel Hellkite , Draconic Disciple , and Dragonmaster Outcast .

You are running The Ur-Dragon as a commander, so be sure that the non-dragon creatures are really worth it. It's also worth noting you have a LOT of creatures, so be sure to go through and thin it down to a smaller number, my deck is creature-forward but only has 26. In those spots put some tutors, artifacts, and tribal/creature effects. Lands are one of the most important parts of a five color deck, and multimedia has some good examples for those.

Lands are also very expensive and it is a ridiculous price of entry to play 5 color "fun stuff". In Asia, though, they don't play commander, so unclick the "English" button on TCGplayer and look for cheap listings for normally high price cards like Reflecting Pool . This goes for any high priced commander cards, even precons.

Think about what you want your deck to be, there is a lot of room for crazy amounts of ramp, color correction, and dragon tribal if you choose not to make it a Dragonstorm deck, but either option is just as fun to play and hopefully equally powerful.

griffstick on Transforming creatures into Dragons

2 years ago

Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

Dragonmaster Outcast

Dragon Whisperer

Dragon Roost

Awaken the Sky Tyrant

Dragon Egg

Draconic Disciple

Dragonsoul Knight


So here's an idea. What about morph? Morph creatures are no creature type when they are in the morph state. Then turn it up any time for its morph cost and boom it's a dragon. Theres 7 cards that do this.

Imperial Hellkite

Quicksilver Dragon

Acid-Spewer Dragon

Herdchaser Dragon

Stormwing Dragon

Belltoll Dragon

Shieldhide Dragon

amicdeep on $5 Budget Dragons

2 years ago

have you considered 1-2 copies ofSarkhan the Masterless? as hes now sitting under 50c and will probably drop a little more with rotation

i feel like id also want to fit in 4 Savage Ventmaw as being able to ramp that much is huge, and gives you a way to realistically use Draconic Disciple and Harbinger of the Hunt without commiting all your mana

(turn 1 elf, turn 2 disciple, turn3 disruption, turn 4 ventmaw, turn 5 play another dragon and activate disciple, seems like a pretty strong curve

given the rate that Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge is falling in price there may be a viable build with him in the future as well. (especially with more mana rocks ect)

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