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Creature — Zombie Dragon
Whenever a Dragon you control dies while Boneyard Scourge is in your graveyard, you may pay . If you do, return Boneyard Scourge from your graveyard to the battlefield.
3 months ago
Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:
Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!
Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!
8 months ago
I appreciate the creativity, and there are certainly a few suggestions I could present. But first, I think it is most important to address your choice of Commander.
Niv-Mizzet Reborn is absolutely not the right Commander for this deck. And I don't mean to say that all 5-color Dragon tribal decks should have The Ur-Dragon at the helm (though, that would be a great choice, just sayin'). My reason is simple: you don't have enough color pair cards on the list for 'Ol Nivvy to be useful. Like, at all. Even as part of the 99.
Now, you could fix that by adding spells such as Terminate, Abrupt Decay, Diabolic Vision, Faeburrow Elder, Render Silent, Anguished Unmaking, etc etc etc... Not to mention that you only have 8 color pair dragons in the deck, and 5 of them are Gruul (meaning, first of all, that the most amount of dragons you could snatch with Niv would be 3 and the chances of doing so are astronomical, and secondly that if you revealed 3 or more dragons by some dumb luck they're more likely to all be Gruul than any other combination, meaning you'd only get to keep one).
The thing is, you'd have to add a helluva lot of cards to make Niv palatable for this deck, and that would mean basically overhauling the entire deck. A much easier task would be to just simply change the commander.
As for general suggestions, I think you can use some Haste enablers. Dragon Tempest, Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Kolaghan and Sarkhan Vol come readily to mind, but there are a ton of other choices, such as Rhythm of the Wild, Fires of Yavimaya and Samut, Tyrant Smasher.
As for your question about better low-mana dragons, understand that there really aren't many good ones below MV4. I mean, they're dragons. What do you expect? However, here's a few of the better ones that aren't an arm and a leg:
Again, if you're going for a genuinely low curve dragon deck, you're going to be disappointed. It just really can't be done.
And finally, Lathliss, Dragon Queen is quite upset that she wasn't included.
That's all I got.
1 year ago
Goldspan Dragon , Boneyard Scourge , Dragonborn Champion , Ebondeath, Dracolich , Galazeth Prismari , Glorybringer , Icingdeath, Frost Tyrant , Immersturm Predator , Leyline Tyrant , Mirrorwing Dragon , Nesting Dragon , Opportunistic Dragon , Sarkhan's Whelp , Stormbreath Dragon , Territorial Hellkite , Thunderbreak Regent , Vengeful Ancestor , Verix Bladewing , Wasitora, Nekoru Queen
Playing with the list and these are ones I think that are good for the deck!
1 year ago
1 year ago
- Trigger for one of the ETB effects you listed (Tempest / Scourge / Terror)
- Send original to yard based on available recursion (PRO: fills the yard, CON: telegraphs your next move a bit). This could also be a lesser synergy with Boneyard Scourge
I think the nonbo aspect to me is that there isn't that perfect, consistent synergy with those legendaries - in this case, Drakuseth, Maw of Flames, Dragonlord Kolaghan, and Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury. It's hopefully a trigger, but choosing the token to remain on the battlefield also clearly telegraphs to your opponents what's coming next. The deck is fairly straightforward, so it's not like it'll be a big shocker, but I'd expect multiple players to hold up mana for counters / spot removal if they see you keep the token and send the original to the graveyard.
In my experience with Bladewing, I've had trouble sustaining an early-game presence, even with a host of 2-3 drops and a bunch of looting effects. Admittedly, I might be looking at Echoes through a narrow lense - the late-game synergy is truly back-breaking (multiple Balefire Dragon, Utvara Hellkite,or Scourge of the Throne triggers probably wins the game outright). I think I'd just be concerned to drop an enchantment that doesn't affect the board on T3 or T4 while my opponents continue to ramp or get their strategies really in motion on that same turn. If you've seen the benefits outweigh the negatives I'd love to know about that experience!
I can confirm Hazoret's Monument has been great, even at a slightly higher cost. Having that additional method for filling the yard has been super helpful.
Speaking of, have either of you considered Drownyard Temple? I don't think I use it currently but could see it having value, knowing how much discarding wants to happen here (hi Chainer, Nightmare Adept! Also considering Azra Oddsmaker and Olivia, Mobilized for War).
2 years ago
Okay, so budget isn't a huge deal then, and I do agree with all of multimedia's suggestions. I believe that Temur Ascendancy is a better option over Elemental Bond due to the fact that both do draw cards when creatures enter the battlefield and the difference between having 4 and 3 power doesn't affect you since most dragons are power 4 or up anyways, but ascendancy also gives creatures haste which is a big thing.
Now for upgrades
The five Ikoria triomes>corresponding tri-lands
So Morophon, the Boundless is just a fantastic card especially in a five color tribal such as this, most dragon cards have only a single pip of each color in their cost, so when you combine Morophon's reduction with the Ur-dragon you can be casting dragons for a single mana... and boneyard scourge just isn't really worth all the mana in the long run. Next Balefire Dragon is just an all around great card that can keep your opponent's boards under control, and Intet, the Dreamer again isn't really worth it having to pay that three to get the card, its a neat card advantage trick, but it think there are enough ways in this deck to just straight up draw that card instead of having to pay three for it. Then the five Ikoria triomes just provide more versatility over their corresponding tri-lands just because they can not only be cycled late game, but they can also be fetched with Farseek or Skyshroud Claim which was my next suggestion specifically because of the triomes. then Dragon Broodmother is just a dragon all star giving you lots of tokens to get all of your attack triggers and to create lots of chump blockers and maybe a big guy eventually, and Crosis, the Purger again isn't really cutting it with the amount of value he gives, against a mono-colored deck it can be alright, but every color you add on to an enemy deck it gets significantly worse. and finally Thunderbreak Regent over Dragonlord's Servant because the servant is very vulnerable and doesn't provide much value in the long run while the regent is an efficient early drop dragon that helps to protect your board from targeted removal or any other targeted ability.
2 years ago
Hey, for less than $150 you've done well with your version. You clearly know how to build a Commander deck with a low budget.
Cards that are $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Tutors: Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Sarkhan's Triumph, Shared Summons, Crop Rotation
- Draw: Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Ojutai(Mystery Booster version)
- Ramp: Faeburrow Elder
- Lands: Cascading Cataracts, Haven of the Spirit Dragon, Unclaimed Territory, Sunken Hollow, Prairie Stream
Scion of the Ur-Dragon is a very good Dragon as a repeatable Dragon tutor and it combos with Teneb, the Harvester + Bladewing the Risen to reanimate the Dragons you tutor for. Consider cutting some of the least good Dragons for a few creature tutors that can search for the better Dragons?
Temur Ascendancy does a lot for a three drop, haste for all creatures you control and repeatable draw when most Dragons ETB including Dragon tokens with 4 or more power. These land suggestions would add five more lands that can ETB untapped meaning they could replace five lands that always ETB tapped. Cascading Cataracts is helpful with Jodah/Fist letting you for five mana of any colors plus tapping Cataracts to cast any card.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Crag
- Vivid Creek
- Vivid Grove
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Meadow
- Make a Stand
- Stroke of Genius
- Distant Melody
- Hedron Archive
- Boneyard Scourge
- Tyrant's Familiar
- Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
Even on a budget the Vivid lands are not good unless you have proliferate to put more counters on them and I don't recommend adding proliferate just for the Vivids.
Good luck with your deck.
2 years ago
Synergy: Thrall doesn't trigger Dragon Tempest, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, or Scourge of Valkas since its a Zombie, while Terror of the Peaks works alongside everything. Since our commander needs a long time before it comes down, the early and mid-game plays have to be consistent and impactful, and a 3/3 flier, while helpful, can be out-classed. Speaking of early and mid-game...
Impact: Thrall can't ramp like the dorks, sad robot, and Dockside Extortionist, it doesn't further the strategy like Chainer, Nightmare Adept, Goblin Engineer, or Merchant of the Vale, and isn't a game-winning combo piece like Dualcaster Mage. Without providing additional benefit to the deck, its hard to justify adding it in - the strategy is already convoluted (ramp! draw! discard! reanimate! combo!), anything that doesn't facilitate one of those aspects is going to be hard-pressed to have a slot.
If there's a card in the list you'd want to discuss swapping out in favor of Thrall, I'd love to chat it out :)