Camaraderie
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Camaraderie

Sorcery

You gain X life and draw X cards, where X is the number of creatures you control. Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.

DemonDragonJ on Advice for a Green/White EDH …

2 months ago

I am planning to build a green/white EDH deck, with Sigarda, Host of Herons as the general, so I would like to ask for advice on constructing it.

Most decks that have the original Sigarda as the general tend to be either "Voltron" decks (i.e., making the general as powerful as possible) or "enchantress" decks (i.e., focusing on enchantments), so I would like to make my deck slightly different from the typical Sigarda deck; specifically, I plan for the deck to have three major themes: a focus on gaining life, but not quite to the extent of my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk deck; a focus on generating creature tokens, but not to the extent of my Ghired, Conclave Exilefoil deck; and a focus on putting +1/+1 counters on creatures, but not to the extent of my Atraxa, Praetors' Voice deck; in other words, it shall be a "jack of all trades" deck, but with plenty of synergy and overlap between those themes. Sigarda does not directly contribute to any of those themes, but I chose her as the general, because she is very difficult to remove, once she is on the battlefield, and I feel that this type of creative and unusual deckbuilding is good and should be encouraged.

First, for gaining life, I am considering cards that make it easy to do so, such as True Conviction, Dazzling Angel, Archangel of Thune, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Sunscorch Regent, Oracle of Nectars, and Lathiel, the Bounteous Dawn, as well as cards that offer payoffs/rewards for gaining life, such as (again) Archangel of Thune, Lathiel, Trelesarra, moon dancer, Blossoming Bogbeast or Trudge Garden.

Second, for generating creature tokens, I am considering Vernal Sovereign, Aura Mutation, Trudge Garden (again), Selesnya Guildmage (possibly), or Scepter of Celebration, and, for cards that reward me for generating tokens, I am considering Juniper Order Ranger, Cathars' Crusade, Dazzling Angel, and Trostani, Selesnya's Voice.

Third, for placing +1/+1 counters on creatures, I am considering Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Archangel of Thune, Juniper Order Ranger, Cathars' Crusade, Sunscorch Regent, Forgotten Ancient (possibly), and (possibly) Vigor, and, for cards that allow me to use those counters as payment for other effects, I am considering Fertilid, Mindless Automaton, (possibly) Ooze Flux.

Notice how many of those cards have synergy and overlap, allowing me to pursue three themes in a single deck, and I also plan to have a number of generically good cards that I use in many of my decks, such as True Conviction, Mirari's Wake, Seedborn Muse, or Sigarda, Font of Blessings, as well as several cards that I have not used in any of my previous decks, thus far, such as Hydra Broodmaster, Pledge of Loyalty, Camaraderie, Commander's Plate, Behemoth Sledge, Shield of the Oversoul, or Veteran Beastrider. I also am considering putting either Valkyrie Harbinger or Kalonian Hydra into this deck, but I do not wish for this deck to be too similar to any of my other decks, so I would prefer to avoid putting those cards into this deck, if I can avoid doing so, and I also am not yet certain about Doubling Season, staff of completion, or Selvala, Explorer Returned, since those cards would be awesome in this deck, but I do not wish to use them in every deck in which they would be a good addition.

What does everyone else say about this? Do you think that this is an interesting idea, and what suggestions can you make, for me? Thank you, very much, and I certainly am awaiting everyone’s responses!

king-saproling on Not another Bunny

1 year ago

Cadira looks like such a fun commander. Personally I would make these swaps:

Sheltering Boughs -> Battle Mastery
Giant Growth -> Fireshrieker
Nature's Embrace -> Song of Freyalise
Escape from Orthanc -> Hope Against Hope
Massive Might -> Sigil of the Nayan Gods
Savage Surge -> Eidolon of Countless Battles
Saddle of the Cavalier -> Hunter's Prowess
Nahiri, the Lithomancer -> Shamanic Revelation
Marble Diamond -> Avacyn's Pilgrim
Witch's Oven -> Mosswort Bridge
Cloak of the Bat -> Windbrisk Heights
Sigardian Paladin -> Pollenbright Wings
Dormant Grove -> Gilded Goose
Biogenic Upgrade -> Camaraderie
Manifold Key -> Rabble Rousing
Wedding Invitation -> Shield of the Oversoul

Terrashock on Rin and Seri

1 year ago

Hello, fellow cat and dog enjoyer. I noticed that you pretty much stuffed every cat or dog in naya colors in that you could find but not a single changeling. While changelings might not be satisfying since they don't look like a cat or a dog, they provide great value because they actually trigger Rin & Seris ability twice generating two tokens instead of just one. They also benefit from both lord effects. Notable examples of changelings are:

Additionally, you seem to have missed (or purposfully no included?) some rather powerful cats and dogs:

Just a few for you to consider. I have a list of all good (in my opinion) cats and dogs in my Rin & Seri list: Rin and Seri

Now, let's be real: Its not the best tribal. So I wouldn't force cat and dogs as hard as you do and also supplement with normal creatures like Mondrak, Glory Dominus or Bloom Tender .

You also do not seem to have a lot of draw options in your deck. Depending on the pod you are playing in, board wipes might be present and can absolutely wreck your game plan. Draw effects help you recover from this. Sadly, Naya is not the best color combination for drawing cards and most of the good draw effects are really expensive. You can see some suggestions for draw effects in my deck list: Rin and Seri

I would highly recommend proxying if your pod allows it. Be careful with draw effect like Camaraderie or Shamanic Revelation. They look good on paper in a token theme but they are "win more" cards in my opinion. If your board got wiped and you draw into those cards, they will not do a thing to help you recover. A wheel effect like Wheel of Misfortune however, will draw you 7 fresh cards to start again.

Lastly, I would recommend getting some tutors in there. Eladamri's Call, Green Sun's Zenith, Natural Order and the like. The best card in your deck by far is Jetmir, Nexus of Revels. He is basically your secret commander. If you can resolve him with 9 creatures on the board, you can devastate your opponents out of the blue. All the more important to be able to find him if you need him.

That's all for now. Have fun!

meecht on Jedit Ojanen, Mercenary - Camaraderie (Retired)

2 years ago

If only Camaraderie was a better card.

wallisface on How is Camaraderie a Bend?

2 years ago

Skagra42 I think you’ve missed the entire point of the conversation. WotC wouldn’t print a UW version of Disenchant because that would be a bend/break for that colour-pairing. In much the same way that Mark Rosewater has deemed Camaraderie to be a bend in its colour pairing.

The fact that one half of a colour pair has access to be able to do something doesn’t mean the paired-colour can do that thing. Your descriptor of it being “pointless” is also invalid - WotC try very hard to make each colours identity feel coherent, and so have to be very careful with how they implement multicoloured cards.

wallisface on How is Camaraderie a Bend?

2 years ago

Skagra42 hard disagree. A good example of seeing this in action is with WB and WU. There is a good amount of White-Black spells that can remove enchantments or artifacts (Fracture being a good example of this), however White-Blue spells don't really get any access to this. While the effect of artifact/enchantment destruction is squarely in Whites colour pie, it's so anti what Blue is able to do, that they don't want to allow these kind of effects in that colour pairing.

In any case, according to Rosewater, Camaraderie is a bend, so there has to be reasons for that. Saying "nope the card is fine" seems pretty dismissive and not helpful towards working out why its a bend.

legendofa on How is Camaraderie a Bend?

2 years ago

Skagra42 Thanks for the sources. Those do demonstrate that Mark is working to remove green's card draw based on number of creatures. If that's the case, then yes, Camaraderie and cards like Shamanic Revelation are bending more.

It would be interesting to know when that decision was made. The two posts you linked, and the link in DemonDragonJ's original post, came from last month. Camaraderie was first printed in 2018. So some time in the last few years, the decision was made to have green card draw, and green effects in general, focus on size, rather than number. If that decision was made shortly after Camaraderie was printed, and set design and production takes several years, then we're just starting to see the effects now.

legendofa on How is Camaraderie a Bend?

2 years ago

I agree that the color pie can change, I'm just not sure that green card draw is a point where it's shrinking. There are currently four mono-green cards in Standard that can draw cards either repeatedly or in bulk, and at least thirty in Pioneer. Green card draw doesn't show up multiple times per set like blue card draw does, but there's pretty reliably 1-2 green mass card draw effects per premier set, and I didn't look especially closely at the Commander supplements.

If anything, I think green card draw is becoming more common, and green's section of the color pie is expanding in that direction. As for Camaraderie, is best at life gain, and small but wide pumps (+1/+1 to all creatures until end of turn) are squarely in its wheelhouse. With green serving to reinforce the life gain and draw cards, I readily accept Camaraderie as .

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