Trostani, Selesnya's Voice

Trostani, Selesnya's Voice

Legendary Creature — Dryad

Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, you gain life equal to that creature's toughness.

, : Populate. (Create a token that's a copy of a creature token you control.)

Trostani, Selesnya's Voice Discussion

Mcat1999 on New Gruul / Naya Combo; …

1 month ago

The new card, Trudge Garden is spicy.

-https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Commander+2021/Trudge+Garden#paper

What's the combo?

Have Mana Echoes in play and a Beast or Fungus in play. You also want an ETB life trigger such as Soul Warden , Essence Warden , Trostani, Selesnya's Voice or Angelic Chorus . Anything akin to these will do.

Bingo bango bongo infinite 4/4s and infinite life with infinite . If you also have something such as Elemental Bond or any of the other ETB draw, you can draw your entire library.

Slap down a Chromatic Orrery , Prismite or Stonework Packbeast and cast everything you've got that turn and win the game.

Combo Name: Mana Garden

Given how explosive this is and how you can gain multiple types of infinite all at the same time, may I just outright request a new hub be added called Mana Garden? ;)

TheVectornaut on GW populate

1 month ago

I like to have at least one way to recurrently populate in this kind of deck. It gives you real inevitability in the late game. Some prefer Growing Ranks , but I personally prefer Trostani, Selesnya's Voice . Making a 5/5 wurm and gaining 5 life every turn is backbreaking for many a deck.

Tzefick on Kimni, Life's Reflection

3 months ago

There's a slight problem in the templating that allows for infinite combos by itself and an outlet. If you have the token copy Kimni her-/himself, there's another ETB of creating a token put onto the stack. State based actions tells you to scrap one of the legendary creatures, so you scrap the token. The ETB of creating a token is then resolved on the stack, rinse repeat. Put any kind of death-trigger synergy card in there and you have an infinite combo outlet.

Can be corrected by having the token only copy non-legendary creatures or if the ETB have you choose another creature (than Kimni), then create a token that's a copy of that creature.

Another slightly different solution is to change it from an ETB to an on-Cast trigger. Like the Eldrazi.

The ETB-variant also enables any kind of ETB-flicker to go infinite. Like Felidar Guardian. Perhaps it is best to have it an on-cast trigger after all.


Why is Kimni a shapeshifter if she/he doesn't do any actual shapeshifting her-/himself?

Wouldn't she/he rather be an elemental, an avatar or god that creates these tokens that are copies of other creatures?


As for power level: 5 CMC for a 2/4 is rather harsh, but the weight is attributed to the token and the Populate ability.

I would say that the Populate is slightly over costed considering we have Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage who does it at 4 and only 2 color pips. And there's Trostani, Selesnya's Voice who does it at 3 but by tapping.

However those are best when combined with something else that creates a strong token to populate. Kimni possibly provides that strong token and can populate it by themselves.

I would still say the Populate should be reduced to 5 mana and it still feels lackluster.

If you aren't sinking 6 mana into Populate, what does this Commander do? Most likely nothing. Sitting on guard duty should any smaller creeps seek to bash you in the face. Seeing as the only thing the Commander can do is utilize its Populate ability, I would say it should be more feasible to use it.

I would love to tie in a Convoke reduction in it. So if you use it to copy good-stuff creatures, you generally don't want to tap those creatures, and you have to pay up. If you utilize it on smaller self-synergistic creatures (like tribals) they can help you go wide with small creatures.

As is the way with cost reduction mechanics, the starting price goes up. So say 7 CMC for the Populate and a Convoke mechanic could be a choice as well. Additionally combining two of the Selesnya mechanics on one card.


To broaden this Commander, it could be considered to have the main body be a Changeling (every creature type) and have the tokens they create be Shapeshifters with Changeling in addition to the copied creature. (It could be considered to have the token be non-legendary.)

This opens up tribal benefits by having the Commander be within the relevant tribe, and the token copy can be used to copy strong synergy creatures, like a Lord-esque creatures or just strong creatures from that tribe.

Having Populate instead of merely making another ETB copy token, makes it harder to capitalize on the copy effect and makes it less flexible (for instance you cannot make redundant copies of multiple strong utility creatures without another way to generate those tokens in the first place), but it does keep the power level more in check.

Of course you can run token copiers or just flicker Kimni to more easily get those copies from the ETB.

You could also run multi-tribal goodstuff, so you select a variety of good tribal lords, and your shapeshifter army gets all benefits. Like include Lord of the Unreal, Lord of Atlantis, Joraga Warcaller, Knight Exemplar. Add some utility creatures like Voidmage Prodigy.



I see an interesting idea that could be utilized in a multitude of deck shells as long as it is kept in check.

Faux_Faux on Sakashima, of a thousand faces …

6 months ago

If cloning's your game, then I have a (few) name(s)!

So if cloning is your go to, I'd suggest things that can allow you do go big, quickly. If you are absolutely deadset on Sultai, I understand, but possibly choose Temur? With cards like Riku of Two Reflections?

Another option would be Naya, with Ghired, Conclave Exile?

Some good ideas could be: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Kindred Charge, Desolation Twin, Giant Adephage, Phyrexian Processor. The new Scute Swarm and Skyclave Relic, and some artifact Shenanigans with Mechanized Production.

Some good, generic populate cards like Druid's Deliverance, Ghired's Belligerence, Second Harvest and of course, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice.

Hope these few Ideas help you out!

Lanzo493 on

7 months ago

At 8 CMC, Parhelion II and Akroma, Angel of Wrath just don't do much.

Now, I'm not personally a fan of lifegain, so I would suggest you remove the lifegain subtheme. I could just be biased, though. Outside of decks that can use lifegain as a resource (like Heliod, Sun-Crowned), lifegain just becomes a card that delays your death without giving you any real tools to overcome whatever situation may be killing you. Now, if a card can gain you life AND do something else, then it's much better. This includes cards like Archangel of Thune. But if a card ONLY gains you life and does nothing else, it's probably not the best. These include Resolute Archangel, Beacon of Immortality, Angelic Chorus, Shattered Angel, Boon Reflection, Rhox Faithmender, and more.

Since lifegain strategies require both cards that gain life as well as cards that use life, in order to make the strategy as viable as possible, the commander should fill one of those 2 roles. Otherwise, you end up using a lot of deck space to put in cards that individually have little impact. Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, for example, is a good lifegain commander since she provides all the life you need to make use of cards like Aetherflux Reservoir. But I could just be biased since I don't have much experience with lifegain outside of my own Trostani deck I used to have. Good luck making cuts!

rdean14 on Card creation challenge

8 months ago

My favorite Guild! Parun: Obzedat, Ghost Council/Ghost Council of Orzhova(Incl. Karlov, Enezesku, Fautomni, Vuliev, and Xil Xaxosz)


Obzedat, Church Boss

Legendary Creature - Spirit Advisor

Afterlife 5

Lifelink

Obzedat, Church Boss can only be blocked by five or more creatures.

At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control at least five Spirit creatures and Obzedat, Church Boss is in exile, return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

5/5


The Council Supreme

Legendary Planeswalker - Obzedat

Extort

+1: Create a 1/1 white and black Spirit creature token with flying.

-1: The next instants or sorcery spell you cast has haunt. When the creature that spell haunts dies, you may cast a copy of that spell.

-5: You get an emblem with "Whenever an opponent loses life, you gain that much life."

3


Parun Flipwalkers, remaining:

: Mat'Selesnya (Voiced by Trostani, Selesnya's Voice/Trostani Discordant : The First Simic (Yeah, if you have a better name go with it, but idk?)

rdean14 on Card creation challenge

8 months ago

Parun of Golgari was Svogthir, a Lich Elf.

Svogthir, Devkarin Lich

Legendary Creature - Zombie Elf

Dredge 2

As long as Svogthir, Devkarin is in your graveyard, if your would draw a card, Dredge Svogthir instead.

Deathtouch, Menace

Sacrifice two other creatures: Regenerate Svogthir, Devkarin Lich.

At the beginning of your endstep, if you control no other creatures, transform Svogthir, Devkarin Lich.

3/4


Svogthir, Lich Transcendant

Legendary Planeswalker - Svogthir

+1: Return target card from your graveyard to your hand, Dredge 2.

0: Create a 1/1 black and green Plant Zombie creature token with "Exile a creature card in your graveyard: put a +1/+1 counter on this creature."

-5: Return target creature from a graveyard to the battlefield under your control.

6


Okay, so the Paruns left are:

Arcaneful on Karametra Help With a Cut …

9 months ago

Harvest Season

Hey all! This is my current deck I'm working on, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I have a cut and a need for some upgrades however.

My college's meta is a fairly strong one, I'd say it's around 50%-75%. Some decks include: Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Gargos, Vicious Watcher, Aminatou, the Fateshifter, and Glissa, the Traitor.

Firstly, I'm trying to slot an Eternal Witness in here somewhere, but I'm having trouble deciding if it's worth to add in in this case. Any suggestions?

Secondly, what are some good cards I should save up for in the future? I'm thinking cards like Cloudstone Curio and Sylvan Library are on the list, but would love any other suggestions. Highest I'll go is around 40$.

I'm aiming for the deck to just be quicker at what it does: getting Karametra out ASAP, then proceeding to ramp out and overwhelm my opponents with my boardstate. Thanks for any help!

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