Liesa, Shroud of Dusk

Liesa, Shroud of Dusk

Legendary Creature — Angel

Rather than pay for each previous time you've cast this spell from the command zone this game, pay 2 life that many times.

Flying, lifelink

Whenever a player casts a spell, they lose 2 life.

Liesa, Shroud of Dusk Discussion

Simerix on ContrOloro

4 weeks ago

The deck is more of a life gain deck than it is a control deck. You have a lot of removal, but that's all that makes it controlling.

Highest recommended card: Vile Consumption. This card is brutal in this deck if you don't have too many creatures.

Hallowed Burial is a highly underrated board wipe.

Card suggestions: Sphere of Safety, Approach of the Second Sun, Aura of Silence, Austere Command, Cleansing Nova, Damn, Darksteel Mutation, Doomskar, Epicure of Blood, Erebos's Intervention, Ghostly Prison, Infernal Grasp, Liesa, Shroud of Dusk, Narset, Parter of Veils, Propaganda, Rest in Peace, Righteous Cause, Rule of Law, Telepathy, Time Wipe, Trespasser's Curse, Utter End, Venser's Journal, Witch of the Moors

Mean/weird cards that I would probably play: AEther Barrier, Archmage Ascension, Death Match, Lightmine Field, Meishin, the Mind Cage, Overburden, Porphyry Nodes, Spreading Plague, Tainted AEther, Portcullis, Magus of the Moat, Magus of the Tabernacle, Silent Arbiter, Serene Master

*Obviously play what you want

multimedia on Kaalia's My Life(gain) with Dragons

2 months ago

Hey, what you have so far is fine with many good cards, but also quite a few cards that look out of place or could be replaced with better even budget options. I see that you're not finished yet with your first version since have only 18 lands as well as missing Command Tower.

I want to mention that if you want to gain life then a good way is playing flying Angels who have lifelink who you can cheat onto the battlefield with Kaalia or even cast. Gaining life from attacking Angels goes well with the overall game plan of cheating creatures onto the battlefield attacking.

After you add more lands to get 35-38 then also consider adding more ramp?

Cards such as Wanderer's Twig and Armillary Sphere are not ramp since they don't put the land you get onto the battlefield, it goes into your hand for a land drop. These types of cards are quite bad when there's actual mana rock ramp that could be added. Weathered Wayfarer also isn't ramp, but the difference is it can be a repeatable effect to get a land which is worth it from a one drop. A reason to add more ramp is as a backup plan to be able to cast high CMC creatures if and when Kaalia gets disrupted since don't count on having/controlling Kaalia all game.

I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.

LunchBox1211 on Card creation challenge

2 months ago

Morning Sowing


When ~ enters the battlefield, if it is not day or night, it becomes day.

Whenever a land enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life. If that land entered under your control, put a loyalty counter on a planeswalker that has not had their loyalty change this turn.


Evening Reaping ()


Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, it fights another target creature. If that creature entered the battlefield under your control, you may instead have it deal damage equal to its power to target planeswalker.


The back does not cost , but I needed a colour indicator.

This has bugged me since Liesa, Shroud of Dusk was revealed. The 4 main Angels of Innistrad all have an incarnation of them costing , where Y is one of the colours on the colour pie, and X goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. But we don't actually have X=1. Before Commander Legends, we were missing 1 sister (who was Liesa) and we were missing . We had Sigarda, Host of Herons for , Bruna, Light of Alabaster for , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight for , and Avacyn, Angel of Hope for . As it stands, Liesa has not completed the cycle.

Finish it. Make a version of Liesa that costs .

DemonDragonJ on How Good are Nykthos and …

2 months ago

Caerwyn, I have not yet built any decks in which I would use Nykthos, but I am eventually planning to build a black/white EDH deck with Liesa, Shroud of Dusk as the general, so I suppose that I am specifically asking about that format.

DemonDragonJ on How Much Lifegain is Necessary …

3 months ago

griffstick, at some point, I am planning to build an EDH deck with Liesa, Shroud of Dusk as the general, and that deck will definitely have great amounts of lifegain, so it shall be a perfect deck in which to have Well of Lost Dreams.

Named_Tawyny on Brave the Sands & Liesa, …

3 months ago

She would still only do the 5 damage. Blocking multiple attackers works (essentially) like being double-blocked when attacking.

Each creature still only does damage up to its power, but they can assign that damage to multiple creatures (once they've done lethal damage to the first one).

So Liesa, Shroud of Dusk would still do five damage, and you'd gain five life, but (for example) if two 1/1 goblins were attacking, she could kill them both. If two 4/4 beasts were attacking, she'd only kill one of them, and then do 1 point of damage to the second.

DeRotto17 on Brave the Sands & Liesa, …

3 months ago

I am wondering if Brave the Sands when Liesa, Shroud of Dusk is on the battlefield (or any lifelink creature for that matter) would mean she gets double the lifelink since she can block 2 creatures at once. Am I reading how this interaction would work correctly or can she block 2 creatures but only get up to 5 lifelink?

Thanks in advance!

1empyrean on Card creation challenge

5 months ago

Rui, Sage of Salvage

Legendary Creature - Spirit Shaman

If an effect you control would destroy a noncreature permanent, you may add or to your mana pool instead.


Commander that has an alternate commander tax (like Liesa, Shroud of Dusk ).

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