Liesa, Shroud of Dusk

Legendary Creature — Angel

Rather than pay {2} for each previous time you've cast this spell from the command zone this game, pay 2 life that many times.

Flying, lifelink

Whenever a player casts a spell, they lose 2 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

DemonDragonJ on Is Staff of Completion a …

5 days ago

What does everyone here think about Archivist? Four mana for a 1/1 creature with no protection is rather risky, but it requires no additional investment of mana, can be used as an instant, and can be used repeatedly, and benefits only its controller.

wallisface, what criteria should I use to search for those cards on Scryfall?

RiotRunner789, several of my decks could actually use Staff of Compleation, such as my Jenara, Asura of War EDH deck, my Marath, Will of the Wild *f-etch* EDH deck, and my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, all of which have sufficient amounts of lifegain to be able to pay the costs of the abilities of the staff and all of which could actually benefit from the proliferate ability. Unfortunately, my Liesa deck is the only deck of mine that can gain life reliably enough to justify the inclusion of Well of Lost Dreams, and I definitely like Idol of Oblivion, but the only deck of mine in which that card would be reliable is my Ghired, Conclave Exile EDH deck, and I am not certain what card I would remove from that deck, to make room for the idol.

DarkKiridon, I am almost afraid to ask, but why do you dislike Otherworld Atlas?

CommanderMeanderer on A Taste of the Divine

1 month ago

Love the deck!

Did you mean to add Liesa, Forgotten Archangel over Liesa, Shroud of Dusk? Seems more synergistic when you don't have your commander out and you can sacrifice her if he is out.

I'd also suggest considering Skeletal Scrying over Necrologia. It can still be used to fill your graveyard at your end step if you want, but I find it to be more flexible for times when you want to actually draw cards/leave mana up and draw right before your turn.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Doom Whisperer …

1 year ago

I am considering putting Doom Whisperer into my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, because of its obvious synergy with that deck, but I would like to ask for advice, first.

The demon would be an easy replacement for Crystal Ball, because, while it does have a higher casting cost, its ability costs no mana, only life, which this deck excels at gaining. If the demon had the scry mechanic, rather than surveil, I would already have had it in that deck, but, since that is not the case, I need to be more cautious.

Does my Liesa deck have a sufficient amount of graveyard recursion to justify putting Doom Whisperer into it? What does everyone else say about this subject?

Gleeock on Eminence: Do you like it …

1 year ago

plakjekaas Yuck, I forgot about Derevi. If you are including tax-evading commanders in the eminence conversation, then what do you think of Liesa, Shroud of Dusk? I've played against a few Liesa decks & I really like her, but she does evade taxes, do you think it is tax evasion done right? or is there NO "tax evasion done right"?

It does irritate me that tax evasion does become this sortof card-advantage deal, where if you are playing a good grindy resource strapped game a player will just choose to cast that commander over & over to just hold up more resources in hand than they should have had.

thefiresoflurve on Teysa, Orzhov Scion

1 year ago

Hey there!

Any current issues you're looking to specifically fix?

If you can spare the lifegain, Martial Coup as a replacement to White Sun's Twilight might synergize better with your commander since the created creatures are white.

Darkest Hour combines with your commander and any sacrifice outlet to make infinite ETB/die effects, if you're interested in that (although I see you don't have a lot of sac outlets).

With your CMC being so low, I might consider cutting Liesa, Shroud of Dusk, since you're likely to be casting a lot.

thefiresoflurve on Black white Liesa, forgotten archangel

1 year ago

Hey, there!

Skyline Savior and Gate to the Citadel are Alchemy cards, and not legal in EDH, if you play with people who care.

As far as {WB} commanders go, Liesa, Shroud of Dusk would probably get you a lot of mileage, since demons and angels tend to be higher mana cost spells, meaning you're paying that 2 life fewer times than your opponents. Demons also have a lot of good ways to kill your own creatures in case you need to turn the effect off.

Tymna the Weaver might also be a decent commander since you'll have a lot of flying creatures and lifelink to sustain the card draw.

Hope that helps!

zAzen7977 on KAALIA'S CATACLYSM - Aggro/Stax cEDH [MH3 Update]

1 year ago

Damn XinZhao, how have I missed Blast-Furnace Hellkite?! Excellent suggestion! I’m definitely swapping Chancellor of the Annex for it. You’re right, Chancellor can be overcome easier than Liesa, Shroud of Dusk. Liesa is especially painful against decks depending on life consumption like K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth.

BF Hellkite joins the category of “damage doublers” like Archfiend of Despair and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. Plus it encourages other players to attack each other.

XinZhao on KAALIA'S CATACLYSM - Aggro/Stax cEDH [MH3 Update]

1 year ago

zAzen7977 I've been looking for good replacements for Chancellor of the Annex and Liesa, Shroud of Dusk I found one I think would be a super good addition, Blast-Furnace Hellkite has a pretty crazy effect that really adds pressure to the board and really turns your threats into outright unadulterated violence. I think Chancellor of the Annex is the choice here her effect is nice but I think most storm combos would be able to pay the extra mana as opposed to Liesa's effect which could just outright kill someone trying to combo off as well as whittle away opponents making it easier to close out a game.