Liesa, Shroud of Dusk

Legendary Creature — Angel

Rather than pay {2} for each previous time you've cast this spell from the command zone this game, pay 2 life that many times.

Flying, lifelink

Whenever a player casts a spell, they lose 2 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (37)

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Talisman of …

5 days ago

I very much wish to put Talisman of Hierarchy in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, because I feel that that deck has a sufficient focus on gaining life to balance out the damage from that artifact, but I need to decide what card to remove to make room for it.

My most likely choice is Thran Dynamo, because, as awesome as that card is, it is expensive, and nearly every other mana-generating artifact in that deck has a secondary function; Gilded Lotus is more expensive than is the dynamo, but it generates colored mana.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I put Talisman of Hierarchy into my Liesa deck, and if I do, what card should I remove to make room for it?

DemonDragonJ on Scoured Barrens or Tainted Field?

2 months ago

I have a copy of Scoured Barrens in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk EDH deck, but I am contemplating replacing it with Tainted Field, because gaining even 1 life works very well with this deck's strategy, but, in the vast majority of situations, having a dual land enter the battlefield untapped is preferable to any triggered ability that that land may have.

What does everyone else say about this subject? Should I replace Scoured Barrens with Tainted Field?

TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge

4 months ago

Perhaps my favorite mechanic from Theros was Monstrosity.

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Bestrona, Queen of the Monsters {2}{B}{G}{U}

Legendary Enchantment Creature - Siren

Flying

Bestrona, Queen of the Monsters costs {2} less to cast for each creature you control that you do not own.

{X}{B}{G}{U}: Monstrosity X.

When Bestrona becomes monstrous, you may sacrifice her. If you do, return target creature with mana value X or less from any graveyard to the battlefield under your control. It's an enchantment in addition to it's other types.

3/3

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Without the built in sacrifice clause, you can only take 1 creature at a time as monstrous is a state for the card. You can't be monstrous twice. So by sacrificing her, you can keep using her ability over and over.

And the cost reduction of {2} per creature also circumvents her Commander tax, not unlike Liesa, Shroud of Dusk

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thefiresoflurve on Holy Angels

4 months ago

Hey, welcome to EDH! Liesa, Shroud of Dusk is such a fun commander.

First off, mana: you're probably going to want a few more lands. 36 is the usual average for a deck with average mana cost in your range. Also, there are some awesome ramp artifacts I don't see in here: Arcane Signet is a commander staple, basically the artifact version of Command Tower. Also, if you want to move out of 2 CMC mana rocks and into 3 CMC mana rocks, I recently discovered Coalition Relic and absolutely love it for the second ability.

As far as colors go, I recommend editing it a bit: Right now, only half your mana-producing cards give white mana, but >75% of the deck is white. Caves of Koilos, Goldmire Bridge, Scoured Barrens, and Silverquill Campus are all dirt-cheap dual lands you can add to help smooth that out. The remaining 6 lands could probably be Plains.

DemonDragonJ on Check Lands or Slow Lands?

5 months ago

Abaques, that is no problem, at all, since you made an excellent point; I have a copy of Silent Clearing in an EDH deck with Liesa, Shroud of Dusk as the general, because that deck has such a great amount of life gain that the payment for using the land is almost inconsequential (plus, the deck also contains a Chromatic Lantern, which allows the land to produce mana without paying life), but not all of my decks would be able to continually pay life to produce mana.

DemonDragonJ on All Will Be One

6 months ago

TypicalTimmy, not every deck needs to be competitive to a cut-throat degree; some people actually play the game for the enjoyment of doing so, not because they wish to dominate other players and be the best player.

Also, I do have a copy of Despark in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk deck, because that card fits the theme of that deck.

DemonDragonJ on Is Razaketh a Good Match …

6 months ago

I am currently building a black/white EDH deck with Liesa, Shroud of Dusk as the general, and, as with all of my EDH decks, it contains Ring of Three Wishes, but I recently have been realizing that the ring is not nearly as good as I originally thought that it was, so I am considering replacing it with Razaketh, the Foulblooded, since he can take advantage of that deck's theme of gaining life and using that life as a resource.

However, I have two concerns about Razaketh; first, he costs 8 mana to summon, but this deck does have eight mana-generating artifacts, so I am not overly concerned about that; and, second, he requires that I sacrifice a creature to use his ability. The deck does have two cards that generate tokens, plus numerous ways to reanimate creatures (it is a black and white deck, after all), but I would like to ask for the feedback of the other users here, before I make a final decision.

What does everyone else here say? Is Razaketh, the Foulblooded a good inclusion in my Liesa, Shroud of Dusk deck?

Gleeock on Win Conditions / Near-whining Musings

6 months ago

It feels like my buddie's Liesa, Shroud of Dusk exemplifies the spirit of FormOverFunction's post. That deck just plays random {WB} stuff without worrying about any specifics along the way, but creating a heavy impact or presence from the start to the end of the game, win or lose.