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Death Match Discussion
2 months ago
Alright lets see if we can resurrect this
Thoughts of Ruin ados lands
Defensive Formation you get to puppet how damage gets threw asign all 12 of ghaltas damage to a pathetic 1/1 which is also being blocked by a deathtouch creature
Purify destory all artifacts and enchantments for 5 count me in
Planar Void do you reconize the effect?... anwser is Rest in Peace and Leyline of the Void the void is $27 rest in peace is $4 (as of masters 25) but whats the price of planar void...28........CENTS WHY IS IT ONLY $0.28 BESIDES THE FACT IT HITS EVERYBODY!!
Outmaneuver here let me give my dudes or your dudes super trample for the attack
Harmonic Convergence enchantments to top which is hate love it
you think Reflect Damage is the only option for this think again we also have Mirror Strike which is one mana less by the way and a creature that does this magic trick its name is Glarecaster ability actiavtion is exspensive but did you notice the part its like shooting everything with redirect damage
Death Match token and creatures 3 toughness or lower hate coming at ya
Debt of Loyalty i will save your creature from being put into the graveyard.....too bad i get to steal it right after
Teferi's Veil unearth and i have to exil...oh wait they don't exist so the exile clause doesn't work and i get to keep my stuff lol
AEther Flash i promise this is underplayed not even the dinosaur tribal decks are using it that much
Tranquil Grove a infinite use enchantment nuke wonderful
AEther Barrier NOW WHAT DO YOU GOT TO SAY FOR YOURSELF ANIMAR!!! >:P
Sudden Death nice try breya
Yixlid Jailer goodbye graveyard evil
to be continued......
2 months ago
grays77: Hmmm. Honestly, it really depends. This deck plays several different ways and the gameplan shifts a lot and adjusts what I'm going to tutor for. Here are some examples, though:
If I'm ahead, I'd tutor for Cataclysm to keep it that way.
If someone has cards that would mess with me (say, Rest in Peace) I'd tutor for answers.
If I have several non-creature token sources I might tutor for Death Match, especially if I have Elspeth, Sun's Champion (it works wonders when people can't use their triggers to remove my token-creators, in answer to your question).
If I'm behind I'd go for Toxic Deluge usually?
Really depends ;) I tend to only pull this out against creature-heavy decks (I have other decks, like Locust God, for when I feel like interacting with other permanents), but I haven't had huge issues with GY hate here. The deck still has its WB tokens plan without relying on the GY. Hope that helps clarify things a bit ;)
chemuzef: Thanks man! I've tinkered with Rakdos before, but he has a very "build me this way" look to him (consistent damage sources, draw, big RB/colorless win-cons), and I've just never had the major inclination to try, personally...
2 months ago
Hi, I really love this deck! It's very clear you've put a ton of care and thought into it. Elenda captured my eye, but most takes on it I've seen are "Vampire tribal with Elenda subtheme" which likely has better commanders. Pox seems perfect-- it really makes use of Elenda and lets her shine. It's mean, but not cruel like most resource denial decks-- which is perfect for my meta. I've been playtesting it, and have a few resulting questions for you:
What are your typical tutor targets, particularly early-game? It looks like you've foregone draw in favor of tutor (my meta also prefers one or the other but not both). I find myself in topdeck mode frequently, wishing I had any way of getting a few more cards in hand, especially when facing down some of the stalemates this deck can produce. Have you tested some of the synergistic draw options like Mentor of the Meek or Skullclamp, and if so what were your thoughts on excluding them?
I love the old janky cards with weird effects like Death Match, but it's hurt me as much as it has helped me. I find I hold onto it until I'm already in a great position, at which point its usefulness is diminished. How do you find yourself using this card?
This deck is, by its nature, going to be weaker against decks which don't rely on creatures as heavily. This rock-paper-scissors nature of the game is totally acceptable. However, graveyard hate is not uncommon with Meren and soon Muldrotha being popular, and cards like Rest in Peace throw large wrenches in the plan for just two mana with only Anguished Unmaking being a surefire answer. Do you find you have enough interaction with non-creatures in this deck?
Thanks so much for this awesome take on Elenda!
5 months ago
Suns_Champion: As always, thank you for your thoughts!
To be honest, I don't care about the DAMAGE I can do with Tombstone Stairwell - I care more about the fact that it creates a HUGE number of death triggers very quickly for Elenda (a number of counters equal to the total number of creatures in all graveyards, each turn).
But I've always wanted to run Death Match in a deck thoughhhhhhh XD
Vampire Hexmage is intended to murder opposing planeswalkers (and is a vampire for minor tribal theme stuff). But I could definitely see your point.
5 months ago
Cool cool, good thoughts.
Tombstone Stairwell seems way expensive and that's before considering the cumulative upkeep cost haha! Could also be more useful to opponents with graveyard strategies like, say, Karador.
Sacred Mesa also seems more conditional than the other token producers, maybe it's good idk. Never used it myself.
Death Match could benefit your opponents too, especially more robust token decks.
Vampire Hexmage seems to play a little too narrow of a role for anything but a sideboard choice.
Not a huge fan of Dark Ritual in EDH personally.
Those were they only things screaming "cut" to me.
8 months ago
1 year ago
Okay, I'm back! ;) I'm going to split this feedback over several comments, for which I apologize.
I took some time and cross-referenced our lists. I'm definitely going to steal some ideas from you (and I already have), but here are a few things you might have missed! :)
Blasphemous Act is THE damage-based sweeper. And in this deck, your commander will return without having to play no commander tax. Accept no substitute.
We have a slow-gring commander with an instant-speed mana sink, which makes me immediately consider Braid of Fire. Plus, it's always handy for a big Comet Storm in a pinch (speaking of which, why aren't there more instant-speed global damage effects here?).
Death Match is a card I've always wanted an excuse to use, and it might fit here. It keeps the field very clean, which is what you want in this deck.
Decree of Pain is a MUST. It has an extremely strong cycling ability, and if you hardcast it you'll often be drawing DOUBLE cards.
Fists of the Demigod seems really strong attached to your commander here (since it'll kill most anything in combat, AND draw you a card from the Withering counters).
You will be casting your commander from hand a lot. This suggests to me the necessity for Sneak Attack and Heartless Summoning and Semblance Anvil. If you reduce his cost to recast, it leaves you with more mana to activate his ability (or, you know, cast other spells). Also, Sneak Attack is just busted in general.
Heartstone might work if you're not in too combo-heavy of a meta.
1 year ago
I used to play Marchesa so here are a few of my suggestions:
If you can give your commander shroud, Death Match seems awesome here.
Have you looked at Magmasaur? Hilarious tech for Marchesa.
I'd try to find a few cheaper mana rocks, like Talisman of Dominance and Talisman of Indulgence. In general I try to have my mana rocks cost 2 mana or less if they only add a single mana to my mana pool.
Your deck can abuse "destroy all" effects very well since most of your board comes back. For example, Necromantic Selection.
Hope this helps! This was my original list:
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