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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Mythic Rare|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Mythic Rare|
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Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker
Legendary Creature — Bird Monk
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker.
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Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker Discussion
2 weeks ago
You'll have better results with Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker at the helm with Atraxa in the 98. Reyhan/Ishai are easier on early mana, draw a LOT less hate, are far more explosive than a single proliferate per turn, and Reyhan's ability to save counters makes the deck far more resilient.
Reyhan and the legendary rule can be abused as well for some VERY explosive plays.
I.e. Blade of Selves on Reyhan is 18 +1+1 counters in a 4 player game. 2x Reyhan die to the legend rule. The 6 counters total from both are seen and replaced by all 3 Reyhans. This can be a commander damage kill as early as turn 3 with t1 Sol Ring into Blade of Selves, t2 Reyhan, t3 equip and swing.
This isn't even counting if you have something like Corpsejack Menace , Winding Constrictor , Pir, Imaginative Rascal , or Hardened Scales as these add extra counters both on Reyhan AND when Reyhan moves the counters. I.e. 2 extra counters would be 5x on each Reyhan, so 5 counters seen by 3 Reyhan twice. The counters are moved in increments of 5 with the 2 extra counters then added again. So 7 counters seen 6 times for 42 total counters.
Feel free to check out my list for ideas. It's not budget friendly as a whole but still plenty of budget options to be found in the deck and a pretty big maybeboard. Little Rey of Ishine (Reyhan/Ishai 2.74 cmc)
3 weeks ago
Couple points: I think you should take more of a voltron approach to this. Get rid of some of the higher cost critters that dont do much and add more aura/equipment + ways to find it. Try and keep the costs as low as you can as you'd want to get set up and moving fast. That being said I think Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker & Thrasios, Triton Hero would be better commanders for a deck like this as Ishai follows a voltron strategy itself and Thrasios is just a mana sink for card advantage.
Let me know what you think and tomorrow I'll see if I can help more. Hope it helps.
3 weeks ago
I've been looking at that card for the last 5 days vs. what it shuts down in my deck. I'm at the point now of just convincing myself it's worth it which I know it is. What it would shut down within my playgroup is.....beautiful.
The downside is the cards of mine it shuts off and what cards I could replace those with.
I wonder if adding Void Winnower is worth it if I go that route.
3 weeks ago
Hello Last Laugh!
I do agree that Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker would be better commanders for this deck but that is not the point of the deck. The deck is simply a way to express my love for Atraxa, Praetors' Voice and Mtg in general. I could increase the competitiveness by making this an infect deck but as someone who has played against infect I currently prefer to not subject my table mates to such an ordeal.
4 weeks ago
dingdongdings I also have an Atraxa deck, Listen to the Praetors' Voice, and we have very different takes, probably mostly due to that you are trying to be budget. Some cards I think you should definitely be playing are Grateful Apparition , Mikaeus, the Lunarch , Winding Constrictor , Reveillark , Sage of Hours , and Luminarch Ascension . They are budget and they do their work.
I strongly disagree about Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker . Atraxa isn't that slow with all the cards like Hardened Scales and Doubling Season , especially not if you are trying to build a budget and casual deck. There are so many counters to go around that Reyhan's ability, while very good, is not good enough to beat Atraxa. I don't think Ishai worth playing, as it has no synergy outside of buffing itself. About the mana problems I agree, especially if you aren't playing fetches or shocks. I have found, though, that you usually get there.
1 month ago
Atraxa is great for harder to get counters but she's slow as hell with dedicated +1+1 counters. Reyhan/ishai are easier on early mana, draw a LOT less hate, and Reyhan's ability to save counters makes the deck more resilient.
Feel free to check out my list for inspiration. It's not budget friendly but there's plenty of budget options. Little Rey of Ishine (Reyhan/Ishai 2.71 cmc)
1 month ago
Have you ever considered Reyhan, Last of the Abzan / Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker as your commanders? They're easier on early mana, draw a LOT less hate, are far more explosive with +1+1 counters than Atraxa, and Reyhan's ability to save counters really ups the resilience of the deck.
Either way, feel free to check out my list for ideas. Different commanders but same colors and strategy. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Little Rey of Ishine (Reyhan/Ishai 2.71 cmc)
1 month ago
Your right that I should reconsider Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker . This includes even having them in the 99 as I do have worse creatures than them in the deck. It would be fun to change it up and run them as commanders occasionally. This would mean removing Hatred and possibly running something like Tainted Strike instead. The Spark Double interests me, though with my build focusing on alot of X cost creatures, it may not be as potent as in your deck, especially when running Atraxa as commander. I had actually considered Phantasmal Image however that card has that annoying sacrifice clause. Blade of Selves is a card I must start playtesting immediately, it sounds really interesting though I may want to add a few more good creatures with ETB effects. Sticking Blade of Selves on a Recruiter of the Guard just sounds amazing.
I also found some interesting cards to consider while looking at your deck. I should reconsider Crop Rotation to get that cradle. Eladamri's Call sounds like a tutor I should consider if I cant get my hands on an Imperial Seal . Selfless Squire looks funny as hell and I want one immediately.
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