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|Masters 25 (A25)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Merfolk vs. Goblins (DDT)||Uncommon|
|Khans of Tarkir (KTK)||Uncommon|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Create three 1/1 red Goblin creature tokens.
Hordeling Outburst Discussion
2 days ago
now as for this deck itself, i'd heavily recommend cutting Krenko, Mob Boss for Goblin Chieftain , trade Lavastep Raider for Goblin Piledriver , cut 4 mountain for Lightning Bolt , and trade the enchantments and Hordeling Outburst for 4 Krenko's Command and 4 Throne of the God-Pharaoh
3 days ago
3) That works.
I also like Hordeling Outburst . They don't get exiled or sacrificed, but if you're making good trades, you shouldn't have to worry about 1/1s.
4 days ago
guero388 Thank you for the comment! Honestly, I haven't had too much time to play/test recently, but previous experience helps with the new decks as well. Mardu Pyromancer is a very particular build that often rewards experience of the match up to understand timing and sequencing. Most decks in Modern become more rewarding and more powerful based on the time invested. Stick with it! And, if it's not your cup of tea later, take a break, try something else, and find your niche.
Mellro I am very excited about Eldraine (mainly for the classic European fantasy theme, but also the big changes that will come to Modern). Chandra, Acolyte of Flame will need more testing, but I am always hesitant about Planeswalkers in Mardu Pyromancer. I have seen (and we could still use): Liliana of the Veil , Liliana, the Last Hope , Nahiri, the Harbinger , and Chandra, Torch of Defiance . I ask myself: "What does Chandra, Acolyte of Flame add to the build that these other Planeswalkers don't?" First, basic +1 ability does nothing for advantage, unless we start running Mardu/Boros Super Friends with Nahiri, the Harbinger , Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded , or any of the Chandra variants. The second ability (+0) does give us hasty tokens, but we have to sacrifice them, so only 2 damage is mediocre. I don't think Mardu Pyromancer is a token deck, per se, but it uses tokens to out value and out grind the opponent, through chump blocking and chip damage. Also, if we wanted a 3 cmc token generator, we would run Hordeling Outburst . The "ultimate" (-2) is actually one of the reasons I would consider running her, if only to consistently use Ransack the Lab for recursion and grinding. However, the deck runs at a slow, consistent rate, that we aren't trying to get rid of our hand incredibly quickly. Also, we run Bedlam Reveler and Seasoned Pyromancer for hand card advantage. I don't think we need Chandra, Acolyte of Flame .
Mellro touching on the new lands from Eldraine, specifically the Mardu colors: Castle Ardenvale is too expensive (in cost and requirement) for just 1 token. Castle Locthwain may be ok on an empty hand (and I would consider it), but Mardu Pyromancer usually doesn't run out of cards, unless Hazoret the Fervent is on the field and encourages emptying the hand. Castle Embereth is not bad on an established board. However, it feels like a "win-more" card, and Mardu Pyromancer (in my opinion) isn't a token deck looking to pump an endless amount of tokens on board; its purpose (again, in my opinion) is to outlast and out grind the opponent. Basically, tokens are like a cherry on top of a VALUE sundae. Castle Locthwain is the one I would consider, if only to give the option to dig for an answer. At this point, spending 3 mana to draw one card might be a bit of a heavy price. I would need to test them more.
saturn999 Thanks for the enthusiasm! We are still out here going strong!
Thanks again for your comments! The Modern Meta Match-Ups section is improving and I hope to have it completely done here soon!
1 month ago
For a Krenko deck you want to go as wide as possible as quickly as possible so cards like these are very important Goblin Instigator , Dragon Fodder , Krenko's Command , Hordeling Outburst , Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin , Beetleback Chief , Empty the Warrens , and Door of Destinies .
Also if you're not on a budge Cavern of Souls .
As for what I'd cut, Lightning Crafter is good but is too slow for this decks game plan. Mogg Raider and Goblin Sledder are too much of an investment. With how wide this deck goes you will far out match your opponent's ability to block all of your things and even if we're assuming their all just 1/1s the difference between 25 damage and 30 damage isn't much. Sensation Gorger is interesting, but a bit too narrow, and very unlikely to actually workout. Akki Drillmaster feels like overkill with how many Haste enablers you have in the deck. Red Elemental Blast also too narrow, but if you have a lot of blue decks in your meta then I guess it is fine.
1 month ago
Nice, I always wanted to do a Goblin Tribal deck but never got around to it. It's a pretty sweet deck, though I would consider some of the following cards: Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin , Pashalik Mons , Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician , Goblin Chieftain , Goblin Matron , Skirk Prospector , Goblin Trashmaster , Hordeling Outburst , Dragon Fodder , Legion Warboss , Goblin Rabblemaster , Metallic Mimic , Coat of Arms , Vanquisher's Banner , Urza's Incubator , Ruby Medallion , Door of Destinies , and finally Herald's Horn . If you find this usefull I would appreciate if you support my deck, A Deal with the Devil! Hope these cards help!
2 months ago
Xenkay that is a great idea. Alternative ways to get extra blockers on the field aside from multiple creature cards was something I was looking for, and the potential for copying a Guttersnipe or a Niv-Mizzet, Parun is awesome.
Do you think I should also look into tossing in another Hordeling Outburst ? That triggers Guttersnipe and gives me 3 chumps to block with to buy time. Not sure what id remove for it quite yet though.
Anyways, thanks for the idea! Ordering a Saheeli, Sublime Artificer now.
Rekram on Gobbo army
6 months ago
Graytr Might be a good idea to speed things up with Hordeling Outburst . As for Warren Instigator , I already had 2 of them in the deck and they did not go too well because of all the sorceries and enchantments in the deck. Might be better with Goblin Instigator instead of Krenko's Command . Squee, Goblin Nabob is probably too mana intense for what it does. Thanks alot for the imput, I will test some stuff with the suggested cards :)
Hordeling Outburst occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%