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Goblin War Party
Choose one —
- Create three 1/1 red Goblin creature tokens.
- Creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain haste until end of turn.
Entwine (Choose both if you pay the entwine cost.)
Goblin War Party Discussion
1 month ago
I'd recommend playing a little faster with Thromak. I just recently built a deck around him too (The Very Hungry Caterpillar (Sub $25)), and I use a lot of quick creatures, as you at minimum need to get five creatures to get him to 25, which does commander damage. cards like Genesis Chamber , Fireshrieker , Forebear's Blade , Bladed Pinions , Goblin War Party , most walls/defenders, as they stay alive and keep damage off you, such as Wall of Earth , as well as Abzan Beastmaster for more card draws, Skyscanner to get a draw and an extra creature, Iron Myr and Copper Myr and such for mana fixing, as Vivid Grove and Vivid Crag for being low price multicolor land alternatives
1 month ago
2 months ago
So Jaya ended up being pretty meh, so Insult / Injury is back in.
Also I agree with paytongamer, new Krenko is just not good enough for this type of deck where explosiveness is key. In a playgroup where more attrition based combat without a lot of creature removal that would be different, but I really have to be able to create an army from nothing over 1 or 2 turns. Goblin War Party is now in new Krenko's spot.
Also got Goblin War Drums in. I haven't played this card in this deck since the first or second version years ago, and it may just be my playgroup shifting but it is back to being very strong for me.
2 months ago
Finally got around to updating this list with new cards from the last few sets, as well as adjustments to the main deck that I liked. I also missed Beetleback Chief , that should have been in here for a long time.
I also cut the number of lands by 2 so more align with the actual performance of the deck. This change may make Walking Atlas and Terrain Generator less strong, so if you like the lower landcount you may want to remove these two to make room for more cool stuff!
Let me know what you think!
3 months ago
I like the Idea, even brewed a little bit with that myself. Here are the problems I encountered and see in your brew of goblins in general, desregarding the "aristocrats" theme. I will comment on that further down:
Electrickery is the first card sideborded against this, and in your brew, there are no creatures to survive it. It gets especially annoying, if our opponent casts it in response to a Goblin War Strike . Not quite as devastating but still annoying are cards like Nausea or Shrivel . This is one of the main reasons, most goblin decks run some numbers of Goblin Cohort or Mogg Conscripts (next to the fact, that a 2/2 for is pretty ok).
How reliable is Kuldotha Rebirth , with just 8 targets? Especially, since you might need great furnace to sacrifice to fireblast.
What do you need Goblin Matron for? She is normaly used to get a specific answer to whatever is needed. Is there any goblin that is worth it to tutor out on turn 3 or later as an speciic answer to a bord state? the only one that comes to mind is Sparksmith , to get rid of a blocker, like an angler. However, you only have one matron in the deck anyway, for mostly your only target, sparksmith. Either slow down the deck and run more targets like Goblin General , Tarfire , Goblin Lookout or Goblin Bushwhacker , or cut her.
How reliable is fling? You mostly will be able to fling either foundry street or a sledder pumped creature. However, both require specific circumstances, either to play a lot of cards from hand and still having mana and fling in hand, or a big bord, fling in hand and sledder on field.
Now, for your basic Idea.
If you want to make a lot of tokens, you need a consistant payof. Goblin war strike is one, but, only one. The aristocrats theme is hard, if the only sacrifice outlet and benefit are 4 copies of goblin sledder. I don't have a definite solution for this, just some ideas. One is to forget about sacrificing your tokens and include cards like Goblin Bushwhacker or even Goblin War Party and go full on a go wide and pump your team strategy.
The other is to go in a goblin storm direction, as seen in this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYE5gnDl1ZE&t=902s
I hope I could help.
4 months ago
Finally got some time to sit down and work through upgrades, and I am pretty happy with how it went.
Goblin War Party in for Beetleback Chief . I've never been that happy with ol' BBC (huehuehue) or Siege-Gang Commander for that matter. Maybe if I could recur them or capitalize on their ETB effects, but without that ability they are just costly token generators. I like the modality of War Party, and is a tiny mana sink too, which is nice.
Goblin Wizard in for Tears of Rage . Tears has been a flex slot for a while, and after Ashen0ne commented about it recently, it's really gotten me excited about the Wizard again, now that my deck works significantly better than it did when I first used him (~2 years ago).
Jaya, Venerated Firemage in for Outpost Siege . This is just a test, and Siege I've never gotten a lot of value out of. I don't normally like planeswalkers because they get hated out so quickly in my playgroup, but this is a pretty low-to-the-ground one that might stick a little easier since it doesn't have an ultimate.
Pashalik Mons in for Goblin Assassin . I love Assassin, and the flavor is hilarious and fitting for this deck, but politically I can't handle running it in my playgroup. I'm taking it out now for the same reason I did a year or so ago, people hate flipping coins or rolling dice to see if their creatures die, and when they have to do it for every Goblin I make they hate it even more, which gets me focused more than I like.
Still considering Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin , but I'm trying to make sure he doesn't suffer from Goblin Piledriver Syndrome, which is that in my deck it is only good when Ib isn't out, and Ib is out pretty frequently. The fact that Krenko is worth at least 3 bodies may make him fit sort of what was the Beetleback Chief slot, with the potential that he gets better the longer he stays. Maybe I will test him before Goblin War Party just to see.
4 months ago
4 months ago
Hey my friend ! I'm a tribal player too and I find your deck really nice !
Do you know how many cards you'll draw on average with Goblin Ringleader ? I have tried a long time ago Tidal Courier for my competitive Merfolk duel commander deck. I found that for a 4 CMC this card was pretty bad and I got approximately the same amount of merfolks in my deck than goblins you have in yours. Maybe it is because blue has other best way to draw cards... Whatever. It is probably your highest converted mana cost card and I'm not sure you'll get as much value as you want from it. A wheel would probably be better :)
Can you tell us a bit about which kind of decks your struggling against ?
Have you try Shared Animosity ?
I stop bothering you there :p ; if you like tribal decks in duel commander feel free to check my fishy stuff ! Have a nice day
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