Bloodthirsty Adversary

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Bloodthirsty Adversary

Creature — Vampire

Haste

When this enters the battlefield, you may pay any number of times. When you pay this ability's cost one or more times, put that many +1/+1 counters on this, then exile up to that many target instant and/or sorcery cards with converted mana cost/mana value 3 or less from your graveyard and copy them. You may cast any number of the copies without paying their mana costs.

DreadKhan on Rakdos Santa Deck

8 months ago

Well, here is what I found: Anarchist, which seems over costed but will leave you a body you can Blim away, Ardent Elementalist is similar but 1 mana less. Backdraft Hellkite can let you Flashback Offering, but that's one and done as it's exiled after. Biblioplex Assistant has Flying, but that's a bad thing to give an opponent obviously. Bloodthirsty Adversary is another one off. Charmbreaker Devils are one of the more interesting ones, but it's awfully clunky. Efreet Flamepainter seems half-decent, but isn't repeatable. I'm a bit curious if Finale of Promise would work at all, it's annoying that you'd need both types, but if you can copy a Dark Ritual/Seething Song and Harmless Offering you can still do more stuff after. Invoke Calamity might be a fit, it's a lot of mana but is a strong effect. Goblin Dark-Dwellers is a beefy body but probably not something you'd want to donate after. I'm not sure if you could get in for damage with the spell-creature, but if you can Magar of the Magic Strings is pretty interesting. If you can get enough mana together Mizzix's Mastery might work, 4 mana to recast a 3 mana spell isn't terrible I'd say. Ogre Battlecaster might do it's thing more than once with First Strike. I'm not sure if Shreds of Sanity is reasonable, 2R is pretty cheap for this, but having to discard sucks. Revolutionist seems openly bad unless you can cast it via Madness. Spellweaver Helix is cool but might be too janky, but it can generate more Offerings (and another Sorcery I guess). I don't think you have a wide enough board to use it, but if you added more creatures then Surge to Victory could fit. Hope something in that pile I could dig out will work, there are some really pushed options like Yawgmoth's Will and Underworld Breach too fwiw, I guess you could Blim away Breach when you're done with it?

Random thought, but if you're fine with recursion effects maybe Oriq Loremage would fit in here? Probably would require more building around though, but Entomb is a great effect to have stapled to a creature if you've got the right cards.

zapyourtumor on Bloodsucker

2 years ago

General comments: Most builds of vampires usually either fall into tribal beatdown, or a more aristocrats themed build with Viscera Seer, Cordial Vampires, Blood Artist, Cruel Celebrant etc. This looks like a decidedly beatdown version of Vampire tribal so I'll give suggestions along that line.

Card to cut:

Bloodthirsty Adversary is a very strong midrange card. However, you only have 7 instants/sorceries, of which 3 are 1 mana and 4 are 2 mana (so you'll never be able to cast a 3 mana spell with it). Basically Adversary is just bad here so I'd cut it.

Mayhem Devil would be really strong... in the aristocrats version of this deck. How often are you actually going to be sacrificing blood tokens, which require mana sink and cards to discard? Probably not that often.

Voldaren Epicure doesn't really do much here. None of your cards care about blood tokens except one, which actually cares about the blood tokens your opponent has.


Card suggestions:

You definitely need some strong one drops in the deck, especially if you cut Epicure. Vampire of the Dire Moon is one of the best. Knight of the Ebon Legion is probably the second best. Vampire Cutthroat is okay if you need more.

Lowering your curve is also probably a decent idea. Stromkirk Captain synergizes extremely well with deathtouching vampires, so I suggest Gifted Aetherborn and Nighthawk Scavenger.

If you want to lean more into the blood token theme and keep Epicure, Bloodtithe Harvester is a decently strong 2 drop that can act as additional removal with Gatekeeper.

Dencoan on Bloodsucker

2 years ago

wallisface after replacing Blightning my only fear is there is not enough spells for Bloodthirsty Adversary otherwise i do feel like Mayhem Devil pairs well with the two blood generators and Gatekeeper of Malakir. Do you think i need more sources to generate blood tokens? i also removed Vampires' Vengeance for some Lightning Bolt

VampRamped on A Vampire Storm *Primer*

2 years ago

raiblaster5000

Vampire Socialite is definitely the best vampire in the set and is certainly going into the deck awesome pseudo lord on par with Legion Lieutenant but with better aggressive potential with menace and isn't to reliant on sticking around on the board.

I definitely want to try out Falkenrath Pit Fighter as it has a good statline for a 1 drop and a rather useful ability

Voldaren Ambusher also has potential as a good removal spell stapled to a vampire so I am looking forward to testing him out as well.

Not fully sure yet on Bloodthirsty Adversary But i am willing to these her out

Necrosis24 on Adversary Cycle

2 years ago

In terms of commander I think they can be pretty fun, although not as strong as they initially seem when you realize how mana intensive they really are.

Intrepid Adversary: I would put in a Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa deck for some flicker shenanigans. Swing in with my white weenies then flicker Intrepid Adversary paying its etb to pump my unblocked creatures.

Spectral Adversary: Good for its flexibility and would maybe put it in a simic or bant deck. I like that it can target itself.

Tainted Adversary: Grave Titan but not as good

Bloodthirsty Adversary: meh

Primal Adversary I do not care for.

All of these have more efficient cards that more or less do the same, so these cards more of a fun include.

Oof_Magic on Adversary Cycle

2 years ago

wallisface

I think Intrepid Adversary had the same pitfalls any true lord would. And that’s probably why Thalia's Lieutenant outclasses it. If Humans were tightened down, they could probably work it in but as is, Humans aren’t looking for much.

Spectral Adversary is much more than a bad Rattlechains. It sits between Rattlechains and Brazen Borrower. That versatility of applications is valuable enough to consider for Spirits (which plays Borrower). Just like Intrepid Adversary and Bloodthirsty Adversary, it only has one potential home.

As such, Primal Adversary and Tainted Adversary being at the bottom as far as Modern is concerned.

I wouldn’t know how to analyze these from the Standard lens but I think it would go something like this:

1) Intrepid Adversary

2) Primal Adversary

3) Spectral Adversary

4) Tainted Adversary

5) Bloodthirsty Adversary

wallisface on Adversary Cycle

2 years ago

Oof_Magic:

  • The big issue with Intrepid Adversary is that, other than there just being soo many cards better than it it modern, is that it risks you getting blown-out heavily by your opponent casting a well-timed killspell, which could end up costing you most of your board.

  • Spectral Adversary has an issue where it's just a bad Rattlechains in almost every situation. And spirits already have soo many better ways to protect their dudes, on top of that. I just don't see where this card has a home.

  • As you've already mentioned, Bloodthirsty Adversary is very similar to Goblin Dark-Dwellers, so might see some fringe play in decks of that vein (potentially even replacing Dwellers, if the deck is wanting to confine itself to running something like Lurrus of the Dream-Den, or Unearth). Imo this is the only one of the 5 that will even come close to seeing modern play, because it explores some interesting avenues, and this effect has seen play in modern already.

  • Tainted Adversary and Primal Adversary are clearly the weakest of the 5, and I'm not sure its worth discussing either of these... but they generally just demand too much mana for no real payoff.

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