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Crumble to Dust
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or her library.
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Crumble to Dust Discussion
1 month ago
3x Courser of Kruphix is partly for my Burn match-up and partly for the synergy with Tireless Tracker and Chandra, Torch of Defiance. I struggle with Burn a little, and was surprised to find Courser outperform Kitchen Finks in the match-up ... I think it's partly because Courser is a better blocker, but mostly because nobody is going to waste a Skullcrack or Kolaghan's Command on a Courser. Then I was surprised to find how good Courser was with Chandra and Tracker. Turns out that knowing exactly when to draw (via Clue), Exile (via Chandra), or just let the top card sit there is GREAT. That made me go up to 3x Chandras, which has been great as well, in all kinds of match-ups. Shaving a 5-drop threat though is definitely a bummer, so I could frankly argue it either way.
I went with a Crumble to Dust over a fourth Acid-Moss because I don't need as much Ramp now (partly because of the extra Chandra, and partly because my curve is a little lower). I went Crumble over a Tracker or 4-drop threat because of Tron and Titan Shift. I know that some people argue there's no need for us to make our good match-ups better, but I disagree ... I want maximum win percentage vs. the expected field, and they're a big part of my meta so I think it makes sense. Or maybe I'm just a bad person who loves how demoralizing Crumble can be to Tron and Valakut pilots! :-)
I've always loved Bolt, and sometimes even "pre-board" 1-2x into the main. It's superb vs. Storm and almost any deck with small Creatures (e.g., Hatebears, Abzan Vizier, Affinity, Humans). Any efficient Instant-speed removal will do though ... I like Sudden Shock for example much better against Infect, and it's also solid vs. Abzan Vizier and Affinity (since they can't combo off or Modular in response).
Affinity is my worst Top Tier match-up, so please take my thoughts on it with healthy skepticism. But for them I leave the Moons, pull every bit of LD and maybe some non-flying Creature, and add as many Bolts, Grudges, Abrades, Shatterstorms, and Angers as I can. I've been on 7x pieces of Affinity "forever", which has resulted in a 38% win percentage. Since Affinity has gone up in the meta lately though, I've recently shifted to 9x.
I normally bring in both Grudges vs. E-Tron (especially if I think they have frazzin' Wurmcoil), in favor of a Courser and a Tracker.
Good luck (and good skill)!
1 month ago
I like the update in general, but I'd like to pick your brain on some of the numbers. I'll start by saying that nobody likes Courser in Ponza lists more than me, but 3 seems like 1 too many. Courser isn't a great threat by itself, so I'd rather have another big threat like Thragtusk or the 3rd Stormbreath. Also, I'd like to know why you've chosen to MD Crumble to Dust over the 4th Acid-Moss or another threat? Finally, I've also been seeing more lists running Bolts in the SB. Which decks are you bringing those in against?
I had a pretty bad testing session last week that's made me worried that Ponza might not get me there in the RPTQ, but it was mostly against Affinity and Counters Company. I'm swapping out a relic in my SB for a Grafdigger's Cage to help out that matchup since I expect to see some number of those decks. I also decided that I should have a 2nd Shatterstorm if I want to beat affinity. Do you side in both Ancient Grudges against Eldrazi Tron, or only 1? I'm hoping to nail down my SB plan and write it out before this weekend is why I'm asking all these questions. Thanks in advance!
1 month ago
I've done it a couple times now with Emperion up to shield me from the damage, and once against Tron where I dropped from 19 life to 4 life but still won after hitting his Tower with a Crumble to Dust
1 month ago
It doesn't do a lot, except ruin their little stupid mana rock things that they try to do. I have taken to running a 1-of Crumble to Dust to shore that little weakness up. I now realize that my list is 59 cards and I'm missing that, so I'll change it to make it correct.
2 months ago
If I went all-in on Tireless Tracker, I think Ramunap Excavator would probably be a must-add. As it is though, there's just not quite enough value in Tracker to do that (mostly because she loses half her value when Blood Moon is out). I had never thought about Excavator though (even though I played it for a while in Standard), so thanks!
Ghost Quarter is a great card for sure, but it doesn't really work in Ponza. For one thing, the deck generally doesn't need more Land Destruction ... it's not really a dedicated LD deck, it's more that it just uses LD as an early game Tempo play, giving us the time we need to ramp into big beaters. Plus, we need the Ramp ourselves, so if we actually wanted more LD (some do), we're better off with Molten Rain, Crumble to Dust, or Acidic Slime than something that sets us back on Mana too. Finally, it's a non-bo with Blood Moon ... and sure, Kessig Wolf Run is too, but Wolf Run has way more value for this deck.
2 months ago
Welcome to Ponza!
Frankly, this list looks extremely solid ... a really good "default" list, which you can then tune to satisfy your local meta or personal playstyle. For example, I go anywhere from 0-4x Bonfire in the 75 and 0-2x Thrun in the 75, depending on meta. I also go anywhere from 0-4x Stone Rain in the main, swapping in cards like Kitchen Finks, Courser of Kruphix, and Tireless Tracker.
Some thoughts on the sideboard: I love Sudden Shock vs. Infect, but I like Lightning Bolt in all other cases. I'm also a huge fan of Trinisphere for lots of tough match-ups. And I've moved to Tormod's Crypt lately because it's the only think fast enough to stop Vengevine. I also always consider Crumble to Dust and Magus of the Moon too, to make good match-ups even easier.
Bottom line though: I would not necessarily recommend any of these changes at this point ... this is really just stuff to think about, as you tune the deck over time.
2 months ago
Yeah, you definitely need more 4-ofs, especially mana ramp. 4 Lightning Bolts is probably the most obvious thing to add in after that.
You might also want to lower the mana costs on your mana ramp. Llanowar Elves is good, and you have that. Search for Tomorrow, Sakura-Tribe Elder, and Arbor Elf + Utopia Sprawl/Fertile Ground/Overgrowth can go a long way as well. Arbor Elf also works in conjunction with Cinder Glade and Stomping Ground.
I've been thinking about R/G Dragons for a while now, just been waiting on the prices of some cards to come down. I think if you're on an unlimited budget, the list to play is something like:
4x Anger of the Gods
4x Search for Tomorrow
3x Blood Moon
4x Utopia Sprawl
1x Chandra, Flamecaller
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter / green planeswalker
4x Lightning Bolt
25 Other Spells
1x Blood Moon
1x Crumble to Dust
3x Destructive Revelry
1x Molten Rain
3x Obstinate Baloth
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
15 Sideboard Cards
You spend the first couple of turns ramping up and board wiping your opponents' threats, then finish them off with hasty dragons that are hard to remove.
2 months ago
If the format were full of aggressive decks and I didn't have the combo I probably wouldn't have Bob here, but right neither of those things are true. Against other midrange or control decks the life loss is largely irrelevant and against aggro decks I throw him away as a blocker. I actually did flip an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn off Bob the other day for the first time. I was playing against Tron, dropped from 19 life all the way to 4. Still managed to win that game, turn 3 I flipped another Bob and dropped to 2 life so I played the Liliana of the Veil from my hand and did the edict on myself, then turn 4 hit his Urza's Tower with my Crumble to Dust.