More combo help!
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Posted on Nov. 25, 2017, 7:35 p.m. by Suns_Champion
Hello again!
I'm making a Intruder Alarm combo deck in Esper colors, and I need some consistency/more combos to think about. I have a secondary part of the combo which is Stonybrook Schoolmaster. I need some free tap outlets for him.
1) most importantly, I need free token producers. Bloodline Keeper, Steward of Solidarity, and Thraben Doomsayer are the ones I've seen so far. Hopefully there are more!
2) free tap outlets for Stonybrook Schoolmaster. Examples: Hermetic Study, Psionic Gift, Drowner of Secrets or Azami, Lady of Scrolls. I'd prefer damage like the first two, but mana, card draw, mill, more creatures, etc, all work too!
I'm also trying to find a Impact Tremors in Esper but am having trouble.
Thanks in advance!
Gidgetimer says... #3
Paradise Mantle is a good way to tap down your Stonybrook Schoolmaster.
November 25, 2017 9:21 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #4
RazortoothMtg Thanks for your help! Zur the Enchanter is the commander. I know I'm missing out on Red and Green, great colors for Alarm combos, but I don't mind.
I'm still running some mana dorks, and Silver Myr could make Puppet Conjurer but that's it I think.
Altar of the Brood is perfect! Thank you!
Marrow-Gnawer seems to clunky but Skirsdag High Priest might work!
I like those tap outlets... especially Hair-Strung Koto which becomes another mill win-con.
Thanks again! If you have any more ideas hit me!
Gidgetimer Yes perfect!! I can't believe I didn't think of that! That enables Puppet Conjurer cards too! Thanks!
RazortoothMtg any other cards like puppet conjurer?
November 25, 2017 9:27 p.m.
GhostChieftain says... #5
Paradise Mantle for inf mana and tokens with stonybrook. Viridian Longbow for inf damage. Fatestitcher and Aphetto Alchemist are great with all of your tapping and untapping.
Koskun Falls is strong since you untap anyways if you want to pillowfort.
November 25, 2017 9:53 p.m.
Steelspike says... #6
For token etb goodstuff, Panharmonicon/Anointed Procession with Suture Priest/Soul Warden and any of the "when you gain life, X happens" effects.
Token producers in Esper: Hidden Stockpile Thopter Spy Network. Stuff like that. Also, there's Endless Cockroaches, Reassembling Skeleton and all the Persist and undying creatures with Solemnity.
November 25, 2017 9:54 p.m.
GhostChieftain says... #7
Had you thought about inf etb creature combos like Karmic Guide and friends or Deadeye Navigator combos? They both add more versatility and trigger your intruder alarm.
I really would suggest at least karmic guide & friends so you can pull your other combo pieces from the yard easier even if you don't use them to go inf. I just really love that combo :P
November 25, 2017 10:13 p.m.
Steelspike says... #8
To expand on luther's suggestions, if you add the Karmic Guide/Reveillark combo, be sure to add Animate Dead/Entomb/Buried Alive type cards along with Ashen Rider and Brago, King Eternal.
Also, something I missed before was Mycosynth Lattice/Darksteel Forge with Brago and Strionic Resonator for infinite etb's...
November 25, 2017 10:24 p.m.
GhostChieftain says... #9
To unexpand on my idea, you don't need entomb, animate dead, buried alive, brago or ashen rider for it to be good. I am just referring to Karmic Guide, Reveillark, Sun Titan, Fiend Hunter and a couple of nice sac outlets. They are a nice small package to add that is both reanimation for your original combo and a potential side combo if your original is disrupted. To be sure, the things steelspike said are good with my combo, but they aren't necessary and will end up diluting your deck. No offense meant to you steelspike
November 25, 2017 10:44 p.m.
Steelspike says... #10
Understood, and no offense taken. :)
The entomb, buried alive thing is to ensure consistency, purely assuming that the deck isn't meant to be strictly casual, but then, who plays Zur/Esper to play casual?
November 25, 2017 11:30 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #11
"who plays Zur/Esper to play casual?"
-awkwardly raises hand-
Steelspike, luther, thanks again for your help! Lot of things to think about here. I like the Karmic Guide/Reveillark package as I already have Sun Titan.
Good ideas here! Keep em rolling!
November 26, 2017 10:31 a.m.
GhostChieftain says... #12
I would love to see your list. If I could do that, we may be able to give some better suggestions and possibly find more combos you can mix in without diluting your deck too much.
November 26, 2017 10:49 a.m.
Suns_Champion says... #13
luther as soon as I have it up with a rough description I'll tag you! :)
November 26, 2017 10:57 a.m.
GhostChieftain says... #14
Awesome. I will keep looking for combos that work with your idea
November 26, 2017 11:04 a.m.
Suns_Champion says... #15
luther, Steelspike, RazortoothMtg, Gidgetimer
I have a decklist up! Please check it out!
IntruZur Alarm | Zur EDH
Commander / EDH*
3 VIEWS
Thanks!
November 26, 2017 1:20 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #16
Suns_Champion: Alloy Myr also works to power up Puppet Conjurer for infinite. Similar to Puppet Conjurer you also have Ghoulcaller Gisa, Lich Lord of Unx, and Myr Propagator,, although those last two are gonna need a lot of mana dorks. I can think of Leaden Myr, Silver Myr, Alloy Myr, Apprentice Wizard (if you have a producer it gets you to the for Propagator), Crystalline Crawler, Cultivator Drone (Propagator only), Gold Myr, Magus of the Coffers, Lotus Guardian (painfully expensive), Opaline Unicorn, Scuttlemutt, Vesper Ghoul (although limited), and Kozilek's Channeler.
Another possibility I forgot is Drana's Chosen. The cohort part is easy with Zur as the commander, just tutor Arcane Adaptation and you have another Ally and an infinite combo.
Myr Turbine could be great as well. After playing it, Zur tutors Animate Artifact, Ensoul Artifact, or Tezzeret's Touch and puts it on Turbine, which then goes infinite with Intruder Alarm. Same idea with Summoning Station and Throne of Empires
November 26, 2017 5:16 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #17
RazortoothMtg Thanks again! I'm gonna save the Puppet Conjurer + mana dorks for later, seems like a lot of work not being enabled by Zur, and I want to try all the other stuff for now.
I like Drana's Chosen and have a Arcane Adaptation so I'll do that for sure! Enabled by Zur which is great!
I also like the Ensoul Artifact or Tezzeret's Touch on an artifact token producer. Again enabled by Zur so that's good. I'll try it out too!
November 26, 2017 7:44 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #18
Also, Prototype Portal and Soul Foundry imprinting Ornithopter, Shield Sphere, or any other creature work. But at that point it's getting pretty convoluted- you need the imprint card, the creature, the Alarm, and the Ensoul Artifact.
November 26, 2017 11:37 p.m.
Suns_Champion says... #19
Yeah that's a lot of parts, and it requires two fetches with Zur. Interesting though, good to know it's out there! Thanks again! Hope you checked out the decklist!
RazortoothMtg says... #2
Who's the commander? Is there a specific reason we need to be Esper? Because Impact Tremors, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Earthcraft, Glare of Subdual, Kyren Negotiations, and Llanowar Behemoth could all be good. It would also allow you to add Voyaging Satyr/Kiora's Follower + Intruder Alarm + Forbidden Orchard for another infinite, and allow you to add Birds of Paradise type cards so Puppet Conjurer type cards could be infinite.
For the Impact Tremors, you have Altar of the Brood kind of.
Tap for Token: Marrow-Gnawer (requires another rat to start), Skirsdag High Priest (requires Morbid and 2 other creatures to start)
Tap outlets: Galecaster Colossus, Hair-Strung Koto, Mothdust Changeling, Patron Wizard, Opposition,
Other cards that could be good: Wake Thrasher,
November 25, 2017 8:21 p.m.