How does Planar Void interact with death triggers that move the card out of the graveyard?
Asked by Tyrant-Thanatos 7 years ago
I'm curious how Planar Void interacts, especially with cards with Undying, or Persist, such as Young Wolf.
I know both abilities will trigger at the same time, and (assuming I control both effects) will be put on the stack in the order of my choice. If I put Void on the stack first, then Undying, Undying would resolve first, put the wolf on the field, would Void then exile it from the battlefield? and if I do the opposite, put Unearth on the stack, then Void, Void resolves first, exiling it, would Unearth then return it to the battlefield from exile? I've tried doing some research but I'm having difficulty wrapping my head around it.
For that matter, if I control the Void and my opponent controls the Wolf, would APNAP order screw with how things can resolve, depending on whose turn it is?
Because if it's my turn, my Void, and my opponent's Wolf, Void has to go on the stack first because of APNAP, then Undying, and if it's his turn, Undying has to go on first, right?
You are also right about what happens if your opponent controls the undying creature, with it's return being dependent on whose turn it is, and how the abilities go on the stack in that situation. You also mentioned unearth, I believe by mistake meaning undying. But the way unearth works (such as on Fatestitcher) in this situation is that it's an activated so triggered abilities will always be put on the stack first. It also can only be activated at sorcery speed, so you'd have to wait for the stack to resolve, at which point it will no longer be in the graveyard to activate. In other words, Planar Void keeps unearth from working.
March 28, 2017 5:41 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #3
Yes, Neotrup, I meant Undying every time, my bad. These keywords and their similar naming. :P
Thanks a bunch for the answers guys, I wasn't sure if effects like that lost track of the object when it changed zones or not. I knew that stuff like Swords to Plowshares did, but I wasn't sure if this was the same deal.
March 28, 2017 6:34 p.m. Edited.
Gidgetimer says... #4
One small thing about Neotrup's answer since they slightly misworded something and unfortunately this particular miswording leads to a lot of conceptual errors for people who are not familiar with the rules. The stack doesn't resolve, objects on the stack resolve one at a time with a round of priority between each.
BlueScope says... Accepted answer #1
You seem to have come a long way by yourself. They are triggered abilities, and if you control both, you get to choose the order. No matter what you put on the stack last will resolve first, have the card change zones and therefore become a new object. The second ability to resolve won't be able to find the card, and simply do nothing.
If APNAP order decides the order instead of a single player, it has the very same effect - if your opponent controls the Wolf and it dies on their turn, it will trigger first, followed by Void (in your example). The latter will then resolve, exiling the card, and Undying won't be able to find it to return it.
In case you're not aware (and for everyone else finding this), the very similar Leyline of the Void works very differently, as it has a replacement effect and therefore will exile the card instead of having it enter the graveyard, causing Undying to never trigger and therefore never returning the creature, regardless who's turn it is.
March 28, 2017 5:23 p.m.