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Waker of Waves
Creature — Whale
Creatures your opponents control get -1/-0.
, Discard this: Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the other into your graveyard.
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Let No Joyful Voice Be Heard
2 years ago
Hey Panthyr! The deck has served me well for sure. It kinda became apparent after a while that people generally overvalued Krothuss's trigger with Sea Monsters that they sorta underestimated how strong cloning any creature could be. Like, two Consecrated Sphinxes seemed stronger to me than three Junk Winders in the long run. So I aimed for a reanimator approach. The deck as a whole definitely able to operate well in an "optimized" playgroup. This list as is usually is always able to do something and answer threats.
Footnote: I do highly recommend River Serpent, Striped Riverwinder, Waker of Waves, or Vohar, Vodalian Desecrator; or basically any way to toss something before casting Runo so you can more easily flip him. Also, Sea-Dasher Octopus can make any creature you control into a 2/2 Octopus, allowing you to get the double token from Krothuss's trigger anyway.
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UR Modern Landstill
2 years ago
I don't understand the inclusion of chromatic sphere. If you were looking for non spell card draw Waker of Waves would be a better choice. I like the budget restriction you have going, makes your choices more spicy. Btw Miscalculation is the same price as Mana leak and has a better text box for this style of deck.
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Runo Stromkirk & the Soggy Bottom Boys
3 years ago
Hey, I want to transform Runo turn four, but consistently it happens turn five or six. I transform Runo faster with loot/discard then with top of library mani. I would rather wait to cast Runo when I have a 6+ CMC creature in my graveyard then to cast him and wait to setup the top of my library. I still have the ability to cast him and wait for the top, but I also have plenty of other options to not have to do this.
In my version the speed of transforming Runo is helped by 15 cards that could potentially be played turn two with no ramp help. Striped Riverwinder, River Serpent, Waker of Waves and new addition Mirrorshell Crab shouldn't be underestimated as fast/unique ways to help to transform. The one mana cyclers of these are most helpful in opening hand for transforming quick. With these cyclers/discard I'm relying more on Runo's ETB trigger the first time I cast him. The cyclers are also helpful to put on top of my library from Runo instead of other sea monsters who could of have been discarded to instead leave in my graveyard to be reanimated.
Reasons I'm playing more loot/discard are lower budget and it also setups reanimation of sea monsters which top of library mani doesn't help as much. Frantic Search can be fast loot to setup Runo since untaps lands to also cast Runo. I'm playing casual, but I still want to quickly transform Runo for Krothuss. After getting Krothuss then I can slow the game down to the pace of my opponents and protect Krothuss.
Have you checked out NEO yet? I just made my first upgrades with NEO cards and Mirror Box is excellent with Krothuss. It removes legendary, but also all the token copies of him anthem Commander Krothuss. All token copies anthem their original named nontoken creature too which makes all unblockable sea monsters much more threatening. Box is an expensive card, but I made room for it and it will most likely become a staple card for Krothuss players.
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Runo Stromkirk - Sea Junk
3 years ago
Hey, nice version so far.
Some cards that are good within the budget at setup Runo to transform.
- Frantic Search --> Heartless Act
- Striped Riverwinder --> Inkwell Leviathan
- Waker of Waves --> Nemesis of Reason
Frantic Search is draw two, discard two sea monsters, untap three lands and tap those lands to cast Runo. Striped Riverwinder and Waker of Waves are 7 CMC creatures who can put themselves into your graveyard for a low mana cost. Riverwinder is only one mana to do so from cycling. Inkwell Leviathan has shroud meaning it can't be targeted by Krothuss to be copied making it less desirable sea monster to cast or reanimate. Copies that are created of Nemesis of Reason by Krothuss don't trigger to mill making it much worse than it appears.
Some ramp upgrades within the budget to consider.
- Heartless Summoning --> Nyx Lotus
- Basalt Monolith --> Heraldic Banner
Since not playing any 1/1 creatures then Heartless Summoning is good ramp when playing lots of sea monsters.
Good luck with your deck.
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Hello Beastie
3 years ago
Hey, looks good, nice cuts. Striped Riverwinder is a good add, I added it too since it's a fast way to setup Runo. I also added Waker of Waves as another 6 CMC + creature who can discard itself to setup Runo.
For some possible cuts how has Flood of Tears been? I just don't like mass bounce spells that will bounce Krothuss (have to transform Runo again) as well as all the tokens he's made. Kederekt Leviathan is a sea monster who does this. Why bounce your own stuff when you have ways to only bounce opponents?
Millikin is subpar and self-mill is less good with Dimir then say Sultai where you have green to recur any card you mill. Looting is more powerful because you draw and have control over what card(s) you discard. Lightning Greaves's has limited interaction since because of shroud it can't be a haste source for attacking creature who Krothuss wants to copy.
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kenrith reanimation
3 years ago
-Baleful Mastery -Waker of Waves -Ingenious Mastery -Hellkite Overlord -Godsire -Eternal Dragon -Beledros Witherbloom -Razaketh, the Foulblooded -Krosan Tusker -Angel of the Ruins
tiffanyann on Unique Commanders
3 years ago
Oh God here we go.
Brine Hag WTF IS THIS
Dire Fleet Ravager YES.
Elaborate Firecannon MUST INCLUDE
Fathom Fleet ANYTHING
Forerunner of the Coalition COP DFR
Gyruda, Doom of Depths SHOULD WE DO ALL EVEN HAHA NO