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Enchantment — Aura
Enchanted creature gets +1/+0 and can't be blocked.
Aether Tunnel Discussion
1 week ago
Costly Plunder is too costly. Vanquisher's Banner is too slow to get out. In their place I would be looking at Shimmer of Possibility , Demonic Vigor and Aether Tunnel (possibly 2 of each) - - more early unblockable creatures, more creatures returned to the hand if killed, and a bit more card search. You would be dropping your average cmc and boosting blue a bit more. Maybe -3 Swamp , +3 Island
2 weeks ago
Firstly thanks for checking the deck and your suggestions.
I wonna give Shimmer of Possibility a go juat wish it had draw 1 stack 1. 3x shimmer in and 3x chart out.
Forgot about Deadeye Tracker , side board for sure... hmm ill have to tinker around to fit him in.
Aether Tunnel is spicey, i want to fit 2 in somehow.... gonna have to get creative and squeeze it in!
2 weeks ago
On a similar build, I used Aether Tunnel in place of Curious Obsession . Make your Thief of Sanity unblockable and get it's steal effect every turn. Infernal Reckoning , or Cast Down in place of Sinister Sabotage gives you a bit of creature hate. Whenever I see a blue deck with Pteramander , I immediately start looking for options. in a U/B deck, Deadeye Tracker can manage your opponent's graveyard, grow in stature and draw lands.
2 weeks ago
Okay so I've got some time, let's get into this...
1) I think Shu-Yun is an interesting choice for a budget commander because he relies on killing opponents quickly, but with budget decks, you're going to be winning much later in the game. He's also interesting because he focuses on quick combat instead of really building up a boardstate. I think the first thing to do would be to abolish the idea of a turn 4-6 win, decks like ours are going to try and grind out the game with cheap removal and synergy, waiting for the right time to strike. Maybe the problem is that the deck wants to win too fast and the budget can't compensate for that, just my idea.
2)You should probably cut the uncommons, things like Invert/Invent, Jace's Ingenuity , Rush of Blood (even though this card is super cool and I'm going to put in one of my other decks), Concentrate , Rise from the Tides , Butcher's Cleaver , Hero's Blade , Inquisitor's Flail , Vessel of Endless Rest , Illusory Ambusher , Smelt-Ward Minotaur , and Whirler Rogue . While these cards are awesome in the deck, they're a huge deficit to your budget and cutting them is 12 less cards. I've found that with a budget like this, it's best to cut to $0.15 commons. Will it be as fast? No. Will it be $10 or under? Yes.
3)Have you considered building from the bottom up? Instead of adjusting my previous commanders, I usually just pull out a fresh sheet of paper and start from there. I feel that it opens up more gateways for deckbuilding and instead of having to cut expensive cards, you can decide which cards to add one at a time. Cutting is also just kind of negative and personally I feel a lot happier seeing: "this card is so sweet for $0.15!" Instead of: "Ugh I can't run this card because it's over budget." This could just be me of course.
4) As for specific cuts, here's what I'd take out(excluding the uncommons I pointed out earlier): Artificer's Epiphany : There are better draw spells out there; Contradict : Again, there are better spells; Depths of Desire : Generally, I dislike bounce, even in Red/Blue but this spell just isn't good, especially when you want to cast Shu Yun on turn 3; Enhanced Awareness : Way too expensive for the effect; Leave in the Dust : From your comments, it seems like you want to win faster, so I would cut these mana-intensive bounce spells so you can run cantrips, also Unsummon is $0.15 on SCG; Prying Eyes : yeah this card is just objectively bad in my opinion, even for a $10 deck; Repulse : Same thing I said before about bounce spells, the card draw isn't worth paying more mana; Scatter Arc : I feel like a lot of the bounce/counterspells are in this deck because they say "Draw a card" paying 2 more mana for a negate that draws you a card is not with it, you could do more with that two extra mana. Sweep Away : Yeah this is way too conditional to actually work out; Aether Tunnel : Yes I know you said you wanted to keep this, but playing it makes Shu Yun a huge target and it's budget intensive. Skygames : This enchantment is okay, but It's definitely not great, especially when compared to your other auras; Highland Lake and Izzet Boilerworks : Yes I know it's important to have mana, but running basics gives you more choices. That's pretty much all I've got for now on cuts.
I wish you the best of luck, but I'm about to pass out so goodnight, I hope this made sense!
2 weeks ago
Deadpoo111, so here's where I'm struggling with how to balance the cuts. With dollar Shu Yun, the math can work that you hit lethal commander damage by playing 2 1-mana spells that add +3/- and casting an aura/flashback/rebound/equipment that provides unblockable. With Prowess and double strike, that's 24 commander damage. The consistency that comes from just needing 3 of many duplicate copies of those effects makes the deck work with otherwise underwhelming spells. As a bonus, that math allows a sprinkling of spells that only provide +2/-, still hitting for 22 unblockable commander damage. If you have something like Tahngarth's Rage that can still provide +2/- the turn after you cast it, the next person goes down with less resources, and so on, closing out the game in 3 or 4 turns.
I can't be as efficient with this build. Brute Force is perhaps the best representative of what budget Shu Yun is about, but it's 20 cents, so you can see the average card quality has taken a hit. 2 +2/- spells means that Shu Yun is only hitting for 20 Commander damage with an evasion spell that doesn't provide additional bonuses. That's why Distortion Strike was so painful to cut. I'm keeping Aether Tunnel at 22 cents, although that's still a turn slower. The bulk of the deck is cheap red pump spells, but too many inefficient ones add up- Two Brute Force , rather than two Run Amok is two turns slower. The non-explosive early game also takes a hit, since 2-mana rocks are expensive. 3-mana rocks conflict with casting Shu Yun on time, but early-game interaction also tends to be pricier. I had to cut some of the better cheap equipment, like Runechanter's Pike , so It's hard to tell what this deck should be doing turns 1 and 2, other than hitting land drops.
The last issue is card advantage. A lot of draft staples like Hieroglyphic Illumination are over-budget already, so I think this is the portion of the deck that will take the biggest hit. I couldn't justify the cost of Steam Augury , which is already budget Fact or Fiction .
1 month ago
OK - I have been playing around with similar builds and have a few comments.
2) I found that Disinformation Campaign under-performs and slows down the deck. If you play 4 Siren's Ruse you don't need Blink of an Eye , specially if you play some other cards that might speed up the deck.
3) Thief of Sanity can be a total game changer in this deck, allowing you to select your opponent's strongest cards and play then as your own. I like equipping Aether Tunnel to Thief of Sanity to create an unblockable 3/2 creature that does damage each turn and also gives you one of your opponent's cards into your 'second hand' each turn. IMO 3,or 4 Thief of Sanity are a must in your main-board.
My choices would be:
-2 Mission Briefing (pay 2 mana to select an instant to replay -then have 2 less mana to play that card - doesn't work until late in the game)
+1 Siren's Ruse
Then have some fun
Building on this theme, I would certainly have Hostage Taker in the side-board. It is a pity that we can't also play Nightveil Specter (from the guild-kit). I would consider the option of being able to drop Blink of an Eye for Curious Obsession to give your unblockable Thief of Sanity even more oomph.
Jaecen on Animar Sec
1 month ago
I've categorized the cards in your deck here: https://deckstats.net/decks/50753/1215572-animar
The following analysis is based on that categorization. Several cards are in more than one category, so I've categorized them based on their primary or common case. E.g. Ancient Animus is both "Removal" and "+1/+1 Counter Interaction", but you're going to cast it to kill something -- the +1/+1 counter is a nice bonus.
There's no explicit or stated goals of the deck, so I can't evaluate the cards against that. If you have a goal, let me know.
The core effect of Animar is to play creatures, which grows Animar. As Animar grows, he helps you play more (and more expensive) creatures. Some notable limitations:
- Animar only decreases colorless costs
- Animar only cares about creatures
- Animar only cares about casting creatures
Animar is cheap to cast and protects himself from most removal (due to his protection from Black and White). Because of this, we can assume that we will get him out early and keep him out long enough for him to provide benefit. We'll build the deck assuming Animar is on the battlefield at all times.
Since Animar reduces the colorless component of creature costs, we'll get the biggest benefit from colorless creatures. As with any unlimited cost reduction effect, we should look for ways to break the free case. The obvious one here is to bounce and recast colorless creatures for free.
Since we're playing all of these (hopefully free) creatures, Animar will grow quickly. Giving Animar good evasion will give us to win on commander damage quickly.
To best abuse Animar, we want:
- Many creatures across a range of mid to high colorless costs
- As many of those creatures in our hand as possible
- An many +1/+1 counters on Animar as soon as possible
- A means to make Animar unblockable
The easiest way to break Animar is to create an engine that casts colorless creatures and bounces them to your hand as many times as possible during a turn. We'll want ETB/LTB effects on those creatures and cards that care about creatures entering and leaving the battlefield. Additionally, we'll want cards that care about +1/+1 counters on a creature.
Favor creatures over non-creatures, as you get a discount on creatures. Try to keep colored costs to a minimum - avoid double or more colors in a cost.
Abusable Colorless Creatures:
- Myr Battlesphere creates four Myr tokens
- Precursor Golem creates two 3/3 tokens
- Artisan of Kozilek reanimates a creature
- Duplicant exiles a creature
- Anodet Lurker and Peace Strider gain three life
- Electrostatic Pummeler and Multiform Wonder give three engergy
- Reservoir Walker gains three life and gives three enery
- Grim Poppet gives three -1/-1 counters to put on something
- Meteor Golem destroys something
- Mirror Golem exiles a card from a graveyard
- Pierce Strider drains three life from an opponent
- Skyscanner draws a card
- Mindless Automaton draws a card via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Solemn Simulacrum tutors a basic land into play
- Thought-Knot Seer can effectively mill and oppenent with ETB and LTB triggers
- Triskelion deals damage via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Workhorse grants colorless mana via a +1/+1 counter interaction
- Oblivion Sower steals lands from your opponents deck
- Panharmonicon !!!
- Cream of the Crop
- Decoction Module
- Impact Tremors
- Leyline of Vitality
- Hardened Scales
- Simic Ascendancy
- Path of Discovery
- Warstorm Surge
- Wild Pair
- Herald of Secret Streams
- Thassa, God of the Sea
- Whispersilk Cloak
- Protective Bubble
- Aqueous Form
- Keeper of Keys
- Key to the City
- Passwall Adept
- Rogue's Passage
- Aether Tunnel
- Cloak of Mists
- Suspicious Bookcase
- Marchesa's Smuggler
- Tricks of the Trade
We'll want to get as many creatures down as quickly as we can. Card draw and other card advantage effects are valuable.
- Vizier of the Menagerie
- Sunbird's Invocation
- Stolen Strategy
- Rashmi, Eternities Crafter
- Garruk's Horde
- Descendants' Path
- Elvish Visionary
- Fierce Empath
- Wall of Blossoms
Changes to the Existing Cards
I would consider cutting way down on the amount of ramp. Mana dorks get the deck running early, but they don't have any synergy with the core effects. I suspect that's what was leaving you feeling like you had a dead hand.
Cards that seem particularly problematic:
- Wild Cantor . Requires a sac for effect. Doesn't get cost reduction. A dork that taps for mana would be better.
- Tinder Wall . Same as Wild Cantor sans the cost reduction bit.
- Vivid Creek and Vivid Crag . These both ETB tapped, don't have basic land types, and only provide off-color mana twice. If would strongly consider running Amonkhet cycling duals over these.
- Ancient Ziggurat . Be careful, as this mana can only be used for casting creature spells. I don't like this land in most decks.
- Bond Beetle . I have no idea why this is in here. It works once and has very little synergy with the deck. Verdurous Gearhulk would be better, but still not great.
- Green Sun's Zenith . I think a cheaper card that tutored to hand and then let you cast the card would be better, as you'd get the cost reduction effect and other synergies. No cards come to mind, but there are lots that look at the top X cards and tutor to hand ( Gift of the Gargantuan , etc.).
1 month ago
Trying to pick up more budget inclusions first so Notion Thief will probably be among the first, the interaction with "each player draws" cards looks fun!
I feel like I might struggle to get combat damage through so i'm considering some more equipment cards with evasion. Currently i have Rogue's Passage and Aether Tunnel but i'm inclined to remove the latter for something that will stay on the board if Lazav or whichever creature is removed.
I'll get to play the deck for the first time on Saturday so we'll see how it does!
Aether Tunnel occurrence in decks from the last year
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