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Oath of Jace
When Oath of Jace enters the battlefield, draw three cards, then discard two cards.
At the beginning of your upkeep, scry X, where X is the number of planeswalkers you control.
Oath of Jace Discussion
1 month ago
"One-card wincons" to consider: Insurrection , Expropriate , Painful Quandary , Rise of the Dark Realms , Revel in Riches , Cut / Ribbons . Perhaps Clone Legion , Rite of Replication , Mogis, God of Slaughter , Hour of Promise , Blatant Thievery , Grave Betrayal , or Mind's Dilation .
One thing to think about is getting Nicol Bolas flipped and maybe joined by the other planeswalkers and casting Obliterate , Jokulhaups , Devastation , or Decree of Annihilation . Almost guaranteed ultimates. Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God would be the best--proxy for now and include in first build?
Boardwipes: Toxic Deluge , Black Sun's Zenith , Hour of Devastation , Decree of Pain , Curse of the Swine , In Garruk's Wake , Deadly Tempest , Evacuation , Nevinyrral's Disk , Last One Standing , Perilous Vault , Oblivion Stone , Kindred Dominance , Necromantic Selection , Subterranean Tremors
Removal: Capsize , Bedevil , Hero's Downfall , Chaos Warp , Kolaghan's Command , Reality Shift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Vraska's Contempt , Rakdos Charm , Price of Fame , In Bolas's Clutches , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , Fleshbag Marauder , Unstable Obelisk , Vandalblast , By Force , Shatterstorm , Hostage Taker , Yawgmoth's Vile Offering , Settle the Score , Dark Impostor , Hour of Glory , Sever the Bloodline , Silence the Believers , Spread the Sickness , Slave of Bolas , Electrodominance
Draw: (I would add Erebos once you're home) Patient Rebuilding , Phyrexian Arena , Greed , Arguel's Blood Fast Flip, Notion Thief , Windfall , Mystical Tutor , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Stroke of Genius , Braingeyser , Mind Spring , Expansion / Explosion , Invoke the Firemind , Deliver Unto Evil , Augur of Bolas , Painful Truths , Fevered Visions , Search for Azcanta Flip, Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Tidings , Thassa, God of the Sea , Day's Undoing , Reforge the Soul , Standstill , Deep Analysis , Necrologia , Steady Progress , Tezzeret's Gambit , Oath of Jace
Random utility: Ophiomancer , Metallurgic Summonings , As Fortold, Pendrell Mists , No Mercy , Stranglehold , Fated Return , Dark Intimations , Spellseeker , Sire Of Insanity , Thief of Sanity , Spark Double , Primal Amulet Flip, Dragon's Hoard , Mystic Retrieval , Shreds of Sanity , Spelltwine , Ashiok, Dream Render , Torpor Orb , Baleful Strix , Darksteel Myr , Solemn Simulacrum , Wayfarer's Bauble , Vedalken Orrery , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Will Kenrith , Mana Geyser , Gem of Becoming , Thran Dynamo , Narset, Parter of Veils , Keranos, God of Storms , Thrilling Encore , Star Compass , Coldsteel Heart , Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , Ensnaring Bridge , Crawlspace , Expedition Map , Burnished Hart , Torment of Scarabs , Cruel Reality , Mnemonic Betrayal , Yawgmoth's Will , Bloodchief Ascension , Nightscape Familiar , Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Dreadhorde Invasion , Fraying Omnipotence , Thrummingbird , Viral Drake , Past in Flames , Mizzix's Mastery , Omniscience , Tainted AEther , Aid the Fallen , Deepglow Skate , Flux Channeler , Rings of Brighthearth , Silent Arbiter , Meekstone , Mudslide , Astral Cornucopia , Everflowing Chalice , Lethal Vapors , Sunbird's Invocation , Stolen Strategy , Maze of Ith , Spreading Plague , Merchant Scroll , Polluted Bonds , Black Market , Grave Upheaval , Memory Plunder , Pain Magnification
Beaters: Dragonlord Silumgar , The Scorpion God , The Locust God , The Scarab God , God-Eternal Kefnet , God-Eternal Bontu , Darksteel Colossus , Colossus of Akros , Visara the Dreadful , Tsabo Tavoc , Avatar of Woe , Balefire Dragon , Nicol Bolas , Hellkite Tyrant , Bladewing the Risen , Grave Titan , Inferno Titan , Steel Hellkite , Vampire Nighthawk , Torrential Gearhulk , Noxious Gearhulk , Combustible Gearhulk , Dominus of Fealty , Roil Elemental , Tidespout Tyrant , Kokusho, the Evening Star , Keiga, the Tide Star , Ryusei, the Falling Star , Wrexial, the Risen Deep , Etali, Primal Storm , Nezahal, Primal Tide , Tetzimoc, Primal Death , Dread , The Haunt of Hightower , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Enigma Drake , Crackling Drake , Archfiend of Depravity , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Thing in the Ice Flip, Niv-Mizzet, Parun , Sepulchral Primordial , Molten Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , Ob Nixilis, Unshackled , Sire of Stagnation , Utvara Hellkite
1 month ago
The Oaths are good as a budget options with Planeswalkers: Oath of Nissa , Oath of Liliana and Oath of Jace . Oath of Nissa can help to color fix for Planeswalkers, good with a budget Sultai manabase. Grateful Apparition can be another repeatable source of no mana cost proliferate. Pir, Imaginative Rascal is a less expensive price Doubling Season effect.
Pernicious Deed is powerful because it destroys all nonland permanents except Planeswalkers equal or less than the amount of X you pay. Spore Frog can be a repeatable Fog which is good to protect Planeswalkers. Vessel of Nascency is a budget way to repeatedly try to find a Planeswalker and put it into your hand while also filling your graveyard for Muldrotha. Kaya's Ghostform can reanimate when the enchanted Planeswalker/creature dies or is exiled. Interplanar Beacon is more budget color fixing for Planeswalkers.
1 month ago
Arena would just be a draw 2 per turn engine, but it's the first one I could think of a zur could tutor ( Oath of Jace could also be interesting).
Counterbalance would be an interesting counter engine, might require running 4 Serum Visions to better abuse, but I'd almost suggest running 4 of those for this deck as you really want to find some cards and not others in some matchups and it's the most effective cantrip to look 3 deep for 1 mana.
This overall idea could be kind of fun to play, but the new hotness from war of the spark in new w/u planeswalkers sort of gave modern an increased power level for the midrange to control speed decks, not to mention horizons bringing even more cool tools for w/u decks. you likely could get a similar feel deck building around the war of the spark planeswalkers, just a bit more consistent since most of them are card advantage engines.
2 months ago
Hey, nice version, but I think there's too many five drops, six drops and seven drops here. 16 five drops are making the avg. CMC of your deck higher than 4.
4.2 avg. CMC is too high especially when playing a three drop Commander. You can narrow down the five drops and keep the best ones: Mulldrifter, Peregrine Drake, Liliana Vess, Devastation Tide, Oath of Teferi and cut the rest. The same can be done for the six drops keep: Duplicant, Terminus, cut the rest. The seven and higher drops keep: Razaketh, the Foulblooded and that's it.
Vela the Night-Clad is a six drop, but if you combine her with Felidar Guardian and Aminatu then it's a combo to make all your opponents lose all life since both Aminatu and Guardian are continually leaving the battlefield which triggers Vela infinite times. Consider including both Vela and Guardian as your main win condition with Aminatu?
Consider cutting many of the high CMC cards for lower mana cost cards that interact with Aminatu or give you good value for the mana cost? Budget cards $3 or less each to consider adding:
- Wall of Omens
- Rishadan Cutpurse
- Brago, King Eternal
- Animate Dead
- Telling Time
- Swords to Plowshares
- Reality Acid
- Oath of Jace
- Oath of Liliana
- Dovin's Veto
- Ashiok, Dream Render
- Narset, Parter of Veils
- Return to Dust
- Talisman of Dominance
Budget land $3 or less each upgrades to consider:
2 months ago
ZendikariWol I'll definitely look at my ramp package and see what I can shoehorn in. I had planned on putting several of the cards from WAR in, just need the set to release first/pull them. I've considered Oath of Jace , but the draw effect is usually lackluster in most cases, and useless without any planeswalkers on the field. The Oaths I include already have constant value/are staples in superfriends so they won spots over the other oaths. I might reconsider the oath, but I doubt I'll include it.
2 months ago
That is fair, and I see why you’re rollin with what you are.
Oath of Kaya is bonkers in a creature meta, idk where your meta is though so...?
Oath of Jace ’s ETB is pretty good and the scrying on your upkeep essentially becomes stacking your deck, at a certain point.
3 months ago
This is also going to be adjusted when Ashiok, Dream Render and Narset, Parter of the Veils comes out.
But that is likely another deck
6 months ago
Kederekt what would you suggest to help the deck out? I think that for starters Deepglow Skate, Thalia's Lancers, Thrummingbird, Clone Legion, Oath of Chandra, Oath of Jace, Search for Azcanta Flip, Jace, Memory Adept, and Steady Progress could all be switched out for ramp or better cards.
Oath of Jace occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%