Destroy target artifact or enchantment, then populate. (Create a token that's a copy of a creature token you control.)
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Sundering Growth Discussion
1 month ago
It looks like your main goal is to stick a creature and then buff it as much as possible with +1/+1 counters. To improve the strength and consistency of the deck, I recommend cutting anything that isn't working towards that end (unless it's very efficient.) I'd identify those cards as Druid's Deliverance, Sundering Growth, Bountiful Harvest, Bump in the Night, Lair Delve, Blood Reckoning, Tablet of the Guilds, Primal Clay, Trestle Troll, and maybe Phylactery Lich (depending on how many artifacts you end up running in the end.) I'd also suggest swapping out Intimidation to stay modern legal, possibly with something like Bellowing Tanglewurm if you really really want the evasion. Your strongest cards that I'd want additional copies of are Abrupt Decay (budget permitting), Ring of Xathrid, Undying Evil, Slitherhead, and Death's Presence (assuming your meta is slow enough to run it.) It also looks like Tormented Soul is a critical piece that benefits the most from growing big, so having redundancy for it seems like a good idea. Changeling Outcast, Gingerbrute, and Silhana Ledgewalker could all be fine targets. For +1/+1 synergy, you have scavenge staples like Varolz, the Scar-Striped, Corpsejack Menace, and Lotleth Troll along with more general options like Polukranos, Unchained, Winding Constrictor, Hardened Scales, Hydra's Growth, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Scavenging Ooze (which is particularly good in a sideboard), Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Hunger of the Howlpack, Forced Adaptation, and Llanowar Reborn. Finally, some cards I've had success with in graveyard-focused decks include Tragic Slip, Satyr Wayfinder, Grisly Salvage, Splinterfright, and Fauna Shaman. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck with your build!
1 month ago
Great start! There are a few categories of stuff I would add, I will start with budget options:
Other good cards, but not as budge
Cards to Consider Cutting:
That is all for now, but I can suggest more later.
2 months ago
I think you are misunderstanding some of the fundamentals of good deck design.
So basically you do not want random hate cards or situational cards main board. You want a strong game plan and every card should contribute to your game plan. Flexibility is good but cards have to serve multiple purposes in a wide range of common situations. For example a card like Abrade is good because it is both removal for creatures and artifacts, where as Sundering Growth is not good as the populate only happens if your opponent plays artifacts or enchantments.
You also want to never be presenting a 2 for 1. So those auras are pretty lackluster. You say they are for a flyers deck but a deck that is purely fliers isnt a realistic thing to be attacking? Generally the decks are doing something else with their flyers and it is better to attack that angle.
This is not a toolbox. A toolbox needs a solid engine card that lets them see the cards they want at little cost and repeatably. Birthing Pod, Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest are example of toolbox enablers because they let you find the cards you need and if you draw a card that doesnt help you such as your artifact hate creature against a deck with no artifacts, you can turn it into a card that does help you.
The creatures you are playing suggest a more aggressive deck, not toolbox. I would advise cutting Crypt, Fissure, Growth and Fountain and reconsidering your ratios. Cut the top end. Cap at 4 mana. 23-24 lands. Maximize the things your cats do well which is be a bit above curve and rewarding you for playing cats.
2 months ago
But don't you think that 27 cats is enough, TriusMalarky?? I'd rather cut some cats and get more lands. Remember that this is also a token deck, so Pride Sovereign would greatly benefit when there are a lot of tokens of 1/1 lifelink cats which also get buffs.
Pride Sovereign in numbers of 2 is really useful with Blessed Alliance, and can generate tokens on his own. I am using Regal Caracal for tokens as well. I have 4x Anointed Procession for a reason. I've usually had great success using tokens in my cat deck. I also have 1xSundering Growth for its populate ability not to mention it will be useful if I ever need a artifact or enchantment removed, which will most likely be hard to draw this card, but regardless I believe it will be used often in games.
The reason I don't have many Feline Sovereigns is because I traded one for Unbreakable Formation. This balances out my ability to have +1/+1 with a creature and instant. But does the Feline Sovereign only give +1/+1 when its on the battlefield, or not?
I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks Birthing Pod is really nice. But I don't think I could use that to eternalize adorned pouncer or anything like that; the only card it would work on is Regal Caracal when paying 4 or 3 mana and 2 life for making a 5 mana creature. And Karn, the Great Creator is only useful if I'm running lots of artifacts. And what is CoCo? With Ajani's Pridemate if I have a lot of 1/1 lifelink cat tokens, and attack with those using Encircling Fissure, I can buff him up so much it will be very useful to have Setessan Training and/or Angelic Gift.
Adorned Pouncer is very expensive mana-wise when you eternalize it, so it will be late in the game when I use it. Same goes for Fleecemane Lion. And Bronzehide Lion is expensive for making a single creature indestructible when I can use something like Unbreakable Formation for 1 more mana cost while buffing my entire army. Yes, they're good for 3/3 for 2 mana, but regardless I have other cards for that. For instance, Prowling Serpopard is very useful against blue counter heavy decks, covering my entire army with their ability, and is a 4/3 for 3 mana.
Angelic Gift is a must if I'm facing flying decks or if there are decks that don't have fliers or reach so I can deal direct damage, and on top of that it functions as a 2 mana cost draw 1. Just think if I used that on a Eternalized Adorned Pouncer!
What I need are tutors or something that allows me to pick out what I need for whatever occasion; that's how a good toolbox deck would work. Perhaps splashing black for Agonizing Remorse and Lay Bare the Heartand Grim Tutor??? Hand control is great when you know what cards are best in their hand, and Grim Tutor is currently the best tutor in Pioneer, I think.
2 months ago
Hello, Kaiser_Silver7 and thanks for posting!
I can't afford Temple Garden. And, Unclaimed Territory can be a problem if I draw anything other than a creature card, and on top of that everything in my deck is either green or white so it's no big deal to go without Unclaimed Territory.
Also, Always Watching will be useless with my tokens, as I plan on spamming 1/1 lifelink cats. I like watchers of the dead because it's a solid 2/2 and can be sacrificed to empty graveyards. I like Encircling Fissure because it is what will allow me to attack with tons of cat tokens without sacrificing them to the blocker.
Unbreakable Formation costs 1 white and 2 generic, so it's just as good as Feline Sovereign, the difference being that one is a creature that can be killed, and the other an instant.Should I replace Feline Sovereign with Unbreakable Formation? I mean, both are really useful.
Collected Company could be useful, as I have generally 3 mana cost cards or lower, but it costs 4 mana for what is 3 or less mana, and I don't know the chances of drawing a 3 or lower mana card. Perhaps you can show me the mathematics behind it? I don't particularly like cards that say 'draw X' and then 'keep x and discard x'. I have Angelic Gift and Setessan Training for drawing power, but they also have other benefits.
What cards would you cut from my collection of creatures?
I'm trying to make this a toolbox deck, which is why i have Sundering Growth, Angelic Gift, Blessed Alliance,Prowling Serpopard, and Watchers of the Dead. Anything that will make it more varied in being prepared for anything would be great!
2 months ago
Hi! I saw the deck, and it seems very funny!, but i think that you could include other cards that in my opinion is good with the deck. I guess that you didn't put shocklands or more Unclaimed Territory because it increase the cost of the deck, but its necessary have x4 Unclaimed Territory in a tribal deck and Temple Garden. With this lands, you don't have to worry about the mana, so i take off Open the Gates.Shefet Dunes can be a great card in this deck too.
I think that is better put Sundering Growth in sideboard, to avoid have useless cards in some matchs. Maybe you could replace Watchers of the Dead for Bronzehide Lion, because is more aggresive and it resists wraths. In this deck, could be usefull : Always Watching, Unbreakable Formation or Ajani, the Greathearted. And is essential to have in a creature deck Heroic Intervention in main or side. Also i change Encircling Fissure for Collected Company, is more usefull in this deck, you have already many cards against aggro, i dont see necessary.
3 months ago
Hey, nice budget version, less than $50 is impressive.
Command Tower is now less than $1 and is one of the best lands in Commander. Selesnya Sanctuary is another upgrade for a dual land. Quest for Renewal good with Emmara letting you create Soldiers or tap your tokens for other effects during each opponent's turn. Good repeatable draw with Mentor of the Meek. Glare of Subdual goes well with Renewal as opponent creature lockdown using tokens. Nullmage Shepherd can wreck opponents artifact or enchantment strategies.
Felidar Retreat is a new enchantment in Zendikar Rising for tokens. It's repeatable no mana cost Township effect or create a Cat token just by playing a land. Worth adding Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse and Myriad Landscape it adding Retreat. Champion of Lambholt can make your token army unblockable since she grows each time a token is created.
Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter combines well with Good-Fortune Unicorn to make each token created a mana dork. Jiang can put a counter on Emmara making it easier to tap her while also making mana. If going the Vehicle route for crew then Aethersphere Harvester and Untethered Express are some budget upgrades.
Cards to consider cutting:
- 2x Forest
- 2x Plains
- Blossoming Sands
- Anointer Priest
- Crusader of Odric
- Attended Healer
- Infiltration Lens
- Curse of Bounty
- Renegade Freighter
- Ovalchase Dragster
- Fleetwheel Cruiser
- Krosan Grip
- Entrapment Maneuver
- Collective Unconscious
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
If a player controls a Wurmcoil Engine and targets it with a Sundering Growth, can they immediately copy one of the wurm tokens with the populate ability of the spell, or will the spell resolve before the tokens are generated?