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Creature — Elemental Wizard
When Cloudkin Seer enters the battlefield, draw a card.
Cloudkin Seer Discussion
1 week ago
15 "Elementals" 8 Tribal Bonuses
I see that you are trying to go competitive, but you missed the point of tribal decks. Instead of using cards that are perfect in your strategy, you are mostly restricted to a creature type so that your bonus providers matter.
With only 15 ways to get an Elemental, and two of those being land, it is highly unlikely that Omnath, Locus of the Roil will ever get more than three damage at best.
Risen Reef doesn't do much for you either. Because Nissa and your walking land don't enter as Elementals or make tokens, they can't trigger it. You might as well have built a weak Temur Landfall deck.
If you truly care about going Tribal, I strongly recommend ditching Rogue Refiner for Cloudkin Seer , Harnessed Lightning for Lightning Strike , Scorching Dragonfire , or Lava Coil (Because you lose Rogue Refiner ), and throw in Omnath, Locus of Rage to replace some Hydroid Krasis es.
Not many people know this, so be glad I'm telling you. If you have Omnath, Locus of Rage and 2-4x of Risen Reef out on the field, then by simply playing a land, you will draw/play your entire deck. You could abuse this by giving Elementals haste with Temur Ascendancy or Scampering Scorcher , or by using Omnath, Locus of the Roil to deal around 16-22 damage with the E.T.B. trigger.
Just some suggestions, but in the world of tribal, you need to maximize your bonuses. The lack of any +1/+1 or +1/+0 bonuses was odd. Not exactly sure what you are going for.
2 weeks ago
Yeah, I did end up removing Cloudkin Seer . I kept Risen Reef in there for quite awhile, but in the end I think that Charming Prince is more useful. So that's it for the Elementals. I ended up removing Faeburrow Elder though because the 3 cost for a 2/2 was a little too slow (which is what he usually came out as).
3 weeks ago
I'm not convinced by the elemental subtheme here, honestly. It seems like you're trying to stick a lot into the same deck. I'd cut a few of them, starting with the Cloudkin Seer s, and add another Faeburrow Elder and Feather, the Redeemed .
1 month ago
Lonelyyoshi1 The reason Mill decks work is because you strip your opponent's resources away from them before they can ever draw them. Basically, making someone mill is control. You want to be milling cards from your opponent every turn and right now you have two strategies in your deck. Creature and draw. the two strategies cross over with Psychic Corrosion , Hedron Crab , because both of those say "do something you're gonna do every turn and mill your opponent" Now the Creature strategy would be a focus on Sage's Row Denizen . Fewer spells and add value creatures. Merfolk Trickster , Cloudkin Seer , Frost Lynx , Fblthp, the Lost . I'm sure the great minds of this forum can list much better versions then i can but those are the few i know right now without google. The whole goal of this version would be to get Sage's Row Denizen out and play a "draw go" style unless you need to play a value creature. I would even run creature copying effects to really abuse the sage like Quasiduplicate , Mirror Image , Spark Double , Rite of Replication . you would have to drop most of your planeswalkers and maybe only keep Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor and run other effects like Blink of an Eye , Callous Dismissal to out value your opponent until you can go nuclear with your sages. at least thats how i would do a creature version. The draw version focuses more on Psychic Corrosion and control. You would run instant speed draw spells like Opt , Radical Idea , Chemister's Insight so you can keep mana open to counter your opponent with Negate , Cancel , Wizard's Retort , Counterspell . You would be 100% draw go. Your turns would more or less be draw, play a land, trigger Hedron Crab , pass. then you counter your opponents spells. if they don't play anything scary you use all your mana at the end of their turn to use your draw spells and make them mill with Psychic Corrosion . you would want to play a bounce spell, recommend Unsummon and your Jace package to get free draws for the mill. Again, I've already shown i don't know the meta for modern so listen to the other guys commenting. The reason i don't like Jace, Arcane Strategist is because he's 6 cmc and doesn't really move you towards your game plan as fast as the other Jaces do. That is also giving your opponent a free turn with 6-7 mana where they don't have to worry about a counter spell. You could run Force of Negation but you are really taking a risk relying on 1 card to protect you so you can play a Jace that has 30% synergy with your deck. I'd rather play my second Psychic Corrosion and have mana up for Thought Collapse or Opt and Radical Idea . Ultimately it is your deck so have fun with it but these are my thoughts. If you would like i could probably use your card list to build two version of your deck and you can try both out.
3 months ago
Chasmolinker - I love me some Raging Ravine, I may have to tinker with it. I am strictly trying to keep the deck to elemental's, it kills me that I cant include Lotus Cobra due to the fact that it is not an elemental, it would be fantastic. See below comment regarding CoCo.
Willisface - 4X Generator Servant , 4X Smokebraider and 2x Leafkin Druid equate to 10 "mana dorks". In play testing I can almost always cast Ragey Omnath on turn 5. As far as CoCo, I have 29 creatures, 22 of which are under 3 CMC, 22 is generally considered the minimum number of creatures, giving your CoCo's a 5% chance of whiffing, a 21% probability of hitting one creature, and a 74% probability of hitting two creatures, 12 of which are mana dorks. I have experminted with Thunderkin Awakener but feel like the 2/1 flying body and triggered card draw of Cloudkin Seer is a better payoff and get's me to my additional copies if need's be.
Thank you for the feedback.
3 months ago
Heya! I'm somewhat a decent player at modern and wanna make another deck! It'll be a ramp deck with elementals. I already have cards planned but need ideas for removals and such. I think some of these cards will work out. Hopefully! Let me know what you guys think! Overgrowth Elemental Yarok's Wavecrasher Boreal Elemental x3 Silverback Shaman x2 Cloudkin Seer Healer of the Glade x3 (want 4) Leafkin Druid X3 Risen Reef X3 (want 4) Thicket Crasher Bioessence Hydra Master Biomancer Vorel of the Hull Clade For lands I have Temple of Mystery (want 4) Thornwood Falls (want 4) Let me know suggestions please~
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