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Enchanted creature has "Tap: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player."
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Hermetic Study Discussion
1 week ago
If a creature is dealt damage by a source with deathtouch, it'll be destroyed as a state-based action. It doesn't matter if the damage comes from combat, a direct damage-dealing ability (such as from Hermetic Study), or due to effects like Mutiny, Rabid Bite, or Epic Confrontation.
Mutiny doesn't need to specify that deathtouch and similar abilities still apply. That's a function of deathtouch itself (that any damage dealt by that creature qualifies).
2 months ago
I loved your red and blue deck, I made my own based on yours with very few changes. I think for this deck you should consider Horseshoe Crab because it already combos well with Hermetic Study and Psionic Gift even though the combo isn't infinite, it gives you a little bit more options. But I don't know what you would replace! Herbal Poultice is awesome, but I think Lotus Petal is better than Bone Saw but it raises the price, so I guess not if you don't already have some around. Love your decks!
6 months ago
What I am looking for is more things like Hermetic Study
7 months ago
Full disclosure, I don't have a Vorosh deck, but I've been theory crafting and looking into it. Hakim is one of my main decks. Please factor this accordingly.
In the case of Vorosh, I think people underestimate that color combination substantially. It has access to cards like Vanishing or Diplomatic Immunity allowing it to dodge and preserve counters, as well as counterspells and tutors. Black and blue have a ton of ways to make creatures unblockable, as well as ways to deal with threats. I would by no means call a Vorosh deck fast. But with ramp and a good set of answers I wouldn't call it tier 5 either. After it lands an attack once, it can drop any player within 2 turns via unblockable commander. And again, it's color combo lends itself well to biding its time and riding out threats. Not to mention a late Beacon of Tomorrows or Time Stretch is a guaranteed kill if cast at the right time.
Hakim is definitely one I personally use so pls no bully. But the ability to recur enchantments without having to expose yourself by attacking means you can make a resilient one man control platform. All the pieces it needs to come online and become a threat are recurrable. Enchants due to his ability, and equipment due to being able to be fetched from the graveyard by blue. Charisma, Psionic Gift, Neko-Te, Vanishing, Grafted Exoskeleton, Pemmin's Aura, Quietus Spike, Drake Umbra and other totems, Freed from the Real, Eldrazi Conscription, Illusionist's Bracers, Hermetic Study, Diplomatic Immunity, Sword of Kaldra, Corrupted Conscience, Blight Sickle, Sigil of Sleep, Oracle's Insight. The overlapping cards fulfilling the same role combined with the fact you can comfortably dump to graveyard(by overdrawing or other effects) means you can quickly dig for what you need. It's somewhat mana greedy but once it spools up its very hard to deal with. You've gotta get past counterspells, phasing out to dodge, recurring umbras, and hexproof. Usually multiple of those are online by like turn 7 or 8. And once it is online you can start trading mana 1 for 1 to get devastating effects. 1 blue mana can get you: destroy or exile target creature, put a poison counter on target player, "permanently" tap target creature, gain control of target creature, half target player's life, draw a card, etc. And if bumped up with helm of the gods or enchant stacking buffs all of this can be done while going full aggro on someone to proc annihilator or punch their face for damage. Finally, he can use recurring mass sacrifice effects to wear down enemies. Smokestack presents a somewhat mana inefficient option lategame to limit enemy's board state. For example, if you have a pemmin's aura, psionic gift, Diplomatic immunity combo online, you can run a smokestack at 3 charges indefinitely. Sacrifice the 3 Enchants during your upkeep, then pay 6 blue to rebuild them leaving the rest open for counterspells. Enemies are losing 3 permanents a turn while you keep enough mana open to counterspell or ping as needed. If brought online lategame after a board wipe your enemies will be completely unable to rebuild while you can continue building up your combo pieces.
In the case of both of these decks, they lend themselves to a decently strong voltron option. But they also both have access to some of the best ways to keep a creature alive through board wipes and preserve their bonuses they've been accruing.
With Vorosh, in theory a bit of biding your time combined with an Unblockable enchant(of which blue has tons) can build up to a time walk effect wherein you kill a player before they can even react. With Hakim, he turns into a controltron that is highly resistant to most answers against voltron decks, while also being able to rebuild extremely fast unless someone can punch through those multiple lines of defense AND wipe the graveyard out quickly.
Keep in mind, I HAVE NOT USED VOROSH, but I do play decks that operate in a similar manner. In theory Vorosh has a great deal of potential as a lategame sweeper with low time to kill aided by time walk effects.
I DO HAVE A HAKIM DECK AND AM THEREFORE BIASED. But hakim is(after some costly spool up) an absurdly efficient controltron commander. He can singlehandedly kill multiple players in a single turn via poison counters and Illusionist's bracers. Or permanently detain an entire board. And the fact all of these are instant speed means he can save his effects til end of turn on his enemy's turn leaving mana open to counterspell threats he can't deal with.
11 months ago
1 year ago
There's not a lot of good things that do this, but here's a partial list.
Philoctetes on Rayne
1 year ago
1 year ago
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the kind words, advice, and upvote! I'm glad you like what I have so far for the description. I always get those up before asking for help on decks because if there's no description it's near impossible to help. Anyway, I wanted to make a Intruder Alarm combo deck and a Zur deck, so putting them together seem perfect! I wanted a really unique deck since my last deck was heavily based on someone else's.
I see your point about streamlining the combos. I've been worrying I was going a little too far in some places(especially with #2) and I agree with your assesment.
Yeah those two creatures, Steward of Solidarity, and Necrotic Ooze(with them in the 'yard) is the main game plan. All others are secondary and may be cut. I know the Steward isn't as good and is near useless alone but I needed some consistency without having to cash out for Demonic Tutor haha
Sun Titan is great. He hits half my deck :)
Standstill seems okay. It looks kinda easy to play around and doesn't help me if my opponent's board presence is greater. Still, I'll consider it.
Yeah, the lack of haste in the colors is killer. Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves and their tutors, and Hall of the Bandit Lord are all I have atm. The pillowfort strategy how I live the extra turn to win and I'm glad you noticed and appreciated that!
Yeah, honestly... someone telling me I'm overcommiting on #2 is exactly what I needed. You're right haha
I'll probably end up shuffling this part around a bit. I like the schoolmaster and I like how he can also combo with Sunstrike Legionnaire. I'll leave them, Hermetic Study, and Psionic Gift, then probably toss the rest.
Vedalken AEthermage is good. I'll pick one up!
Gray Merchant of Asphodel will probably be cut but Hell's Caretaker has a lot of synergy with my recursion package of Karmic Guide, Reveillark, Sun Titan, Fiend Hunter, and Auramancer. He's just generally very good and near infinite with Alarm out. I'll ditch the combo but I think he can slide into another category.
While all that's going on.
I like Trinket Mage because he's a cheap tutor, but I don't have many other targets for him.
Martyr's Cause is one I have actually! I haven't tested it out yet but we'll see!
After streamlining Combo #1 and Combo #2 here's what they could look like:
Thanks for laying everything out for my like that! Extremely helpful!
I like that way of looking at it. Pillowfort first, combo second. Thanks for that advice!
Again, thanks for laying all the suggestions out like this! It's especially helpful when you've already talked about the deck a ton and now you're giving the suggestions to go off of what you've already said. I'm finding this extremely helpful and will try to do it like this when I help people!
Ethereal Armor is an easy addition. I already have one so I'll throw it in there!
Once again, loving the summarized lists. It's nice to see what the deck could look like in this way. You are good at what you do friend. You deserve that top helper rank.
I'm glad you recognize some creativity and uniqueness in the deck. I'll gladly take all of your advise into consideration.
I'm going to be updating the deck soon, perhaps this weekend. I'd love it if you'd look at it again once I do... though I know you've definitely spent a lot of time on it haha! Let me know if it'd be okay to tag you or something :)
My sincerest thanks!