Creature — Vampire
When Vampire Sovereign enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
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|Core Set 2019 (M19)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Vampire Sovereign Discussion
2 months ago
4 months ago
9 months ago
You said in your thread in the deck help forum that you wanted to get it down to 66, so that is 18 cuts.
Trespasser's Curse - Curses feel unnecessarily antagonistic and this one doesn't do much.
Curator's Ward - Unlikely to ever draw you cards.
Ashes of the Abhorrent - Not good unless your meta is very graveyard heavy.
Prowler's Helm - Not a very good piece of evasion equipment.
Wing Shards - Bad except against voltron.
Nightmare's Thirst - Hardly ever going to kill anything of importance.
Mana Leak - The type of games you are likely to play with this deck tax counters won't matter.
Convolute - See above.
Healing Grace - 1 shot small amounts of lifegain aren't worth a card slot.
Dark Ritual - Rituals aren't great in commander unless it is to ramp directly into a victory and you have no insta-wins.
Vampire Sovereign - ETB doesn't justify paying the price for the body in a non-blink deck.
Angel of the God-Pharaoh - 6 mana 4/4 isn't worth it just because it has cycling.
Diamond Mare - Going to gain you much less life than you think it will.
Underworld Coinsmith - Effects aren't strong enough.
Bonus round, these cards are all relatively weak and I really think that maybe you wanted angel tribal and didn't want to say it was a tribal deck.
9 months ago
In general, my feedback is that you have too many one-shot lifegain effects for small amounts (1-3 life). These don't do enough - you have to have multiple other cards on board before they really help you/hurt others.
Cards to cut:
- Angel of Mercy - Angel of the Dawn - Angel of the God-Pharaoh - Seraph of the Suns - Serra Angel - Urgoros, the Empty One - Vampire Sovereign - Dark Ritual - Healing Grace - Fountain of Renewal - Manalith - Prowler's Helm - Behind the Scenes - Ill-Gotten Inheritance - Trespasser's Curse - Dovin Baan
A few cards to think about adding:
Last, I'll just note that Oloro is already not a beloved commander, and you're playing a lot of counter magic. You might want to think about inserting some W/U pillowfort, cause everyone is going to be coming for you.
11 months ago
Placed some updates to the deck. Switched out Vampire Sovereign for Lord of the Accursed . Alos removed one Sovereign's Bite . I plane to remove all of the rest pf the Sovereign's Bite for Gray Merchant of Asphodel . It may hurt my deck but i have to have my lady love Liliana in the deck. I will replace Liliana, Untouched By Death with Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip. I feel there is better synergy and i can still get the famous removal Liliana of the Veil is loved for, But the second ability of this one is better for a creature based beck like this. The ultimate is also amazing if one can manage to get it off. Looking to replace Dark Salvation i love it but i feel something like Duress , Despise , or Thoughtseize . Though i think it is good i have played a few rounds with friends and feel it is more a sideboard card as i was always playing a creature instead of Dark Salvation , or i would play something cheaper like Go for the Throat to cast other cards in my hand.
11 months ago
I will preface this by saying black and zombies are my favorite color and tribe respectively but I have not played very much modern.
Vampire Sovereign is not a zombie, and the deck has enough endurance and recursion to not really need flyers or direct damage, and the sovereign is a bit expensive. Cryptbreaker results in more zombies and more cards in the graveyard, which is also more zombies, and will refill your hand if the game goes late or you are playing defensively. Alternatively, if you do want the lifesteal instead of being more focused on aggro, raydenkiller's suggestion of Gray Merchant of Asphodel (Gary for short) is good for the reasons he stated.
Foul-Tongue Shriek is cheaper than Sovereign's Bite and will often be better for closing out a game. The big downside is it is more restrictive in that it can only be cast effectively when you are attacking with multiple creatures.
Playing only Go for the Throat is risky if you end up playing against an artifact deck, so it could be wise to hedge into the other similar cards like Cast Down and Doom Blade . A great place for these kinds of cards is the sideboard, running 2x of Go for the Throat and Doom Blade in the both the mainboard and sideboard is an easy distribution which would be hard to go wrong with.
I don't know much about burn or how to fight it but in my experience control is beaten through hand attack and playing more aggressively. In deckbuilding you'd want to include cards like Duress in the sideboard (or Thoughtseize if you're made of money) and to make your mana curve lower. Zombies should have a better match against control than a lot of aggro/midrange decks because the creatures recurring from the graveyard makes their counters much worse.
Liliana, Untouched By Death is not the best option for a zombies deck. It isn't necessarily bad, it just isn't very impactful for its mana cost. A more focused effect like a creature or Liliana's Mastery is probably better.
I'd recommend doing some research into zombie decks in modern, seeing what cards they play and seeing if and how they fit into your deck.
I hope you do well with zombies!
11 months ago
Hey musicman3310, I hear ya. I played 9 games with this on Arena last night (won 3), and that definitely happened. I did try to have some 'bombs' for an additional path to victory, like the The Haunt of Hightower and Vampire Sovereign , and to some extent and adapted Incubation Druid . Just feels like if you don't go all in on the discard angle it won't be worth it to play it, ya know what I mean? Maybe go down to 10 discard sorcery cards and get two more creatures in there? I'm definitely open to suggestions.
1 year ago
I've been playing this deck on arena for the last few weeks and here is what my findings are:
Arterial Flow is probably best as a x3 of, I felt that x4 was too much for the deck, and having 1 well timed flow is a big play for this deck.
Abnormal Endurance is a good x2 of in this deck, acting as protection for our creatures, a combat trick and allows us to double up on some of our enter the battlefield triggers like Vampire Sovereign .
1x mainboard Arguel's Blood Fast Flip has worked very well and is a big play in the matches you have it as you run out of cards quickly and the lifeloss from activation is mitigated by our lifegain cards.