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Creature — Rhino
When Siege Rhino enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
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Siege Rhino Discussion
4 days ago
First of all thanks a lot for your insights!
Let me try to answer everything. Eldrazi Displacer is actually much better than I remembered (by the time OGW came out I was playing a clanky abzan deck made for the Emperor format that used it with Siege Rhino to kill everyone playing as the emperor!) and for some reason when I wrote this description I was thinking it said "exile... and bring it back tapped EoT." which would have prevented that infinite loop. In the meantime I realized that (I believe while looking at your own deck) but didn't update the description so far. Definitely that was something that I would have noticed while playing, but I didn't have the chance to test the deck properly so far.
As for Lightning Greaves + Padeem, Consul of Innovation, definitely worthy inclusions (the greaves to such an extent that I never bother including it in a maybeboard because I know they should be there) but I still didn't get my copies: Padeem because I could trade it with a friend who I know has one up for trade and greaves, because I have one or two decks with one copy in that I'm about to strip to pieces or repurpose, so I'm going to get one of those into this list in time. By the way, Padeem is a woman! I wouldn't have guessed it unless someone pointed it out on youtube at some point eheh. But back onto the deck itself, my problem at this point is to define what is relevant or not in this deck, and most times at my own lists I try to figure this out by cutting some autoincludes for other more doubtful cards, until I understand which one underperforms, so then I can bring in the proven overperformers. Since my playgroup is pretty casual, this is rarely a big handicap for me, and IMO is a great way to test some cards you are not so sure about. Say I'm in doubt between Hanna, Ship's Navigator and Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer (which is not the case, at least before getting some games under my belt). Wouldn't they be kind of cannibalizing each other's function? I'd rather test both at the same time, than choose one over the other and never have the chance to properly compare nor test how they synergize between them, even if they were seemingly worse cards on their own. I know Padeem is going to be vital to keep me safe in many situations, and Greaves are always worth including except when shroud is an handicap because of auras and such, so these are cards that I know I want, but first I want to figure out for sure which ones I can live without.
5 days ago
As for Siege Rhino definitely not! I cut Black to have a more consistent mana base and I am not willing to run a 4 color (yes, is a color for mana base construction) with Leonin Arbiter and no fetchlands.
5 days ago
1 week ago
Closest I could make work is the following:
Siege Rhino Assuming it's the duel deck one.
If that's close enough for you, let me know. (Or if you have other small wants you can find, that also works.)
Bo5dey on Revolt Zoo
1 week ago
Hands with Hidden Herbalists and Reckless Bushwhacker can get a little awkward, for sure. I've seen several lists running the pair of Simian Spirit Guide, presumably to get the red mana for Bushwhacker when the Burning-Tree Emissary mana filtering isn't there.
As compared to previous Bushwhacker Zoo lists, the addition of Herbalists does make the deck go a little heavier on the green (hence stuff like Narnam Renegade and Rancor, and the omission of things like Kird Ape and Lightning Mauler). I may bring Kird Ape back at some point, and yeah, Greenwheel Liberator is on my radar as something to try over Flinthoof Boar.
Tribal Flames is neat, but this deck is gonna top out at about 3 lands when the game is decided, and I feel that you're better off running a "bigger" Zoo list with things like Siege Rhino at that point.
2 weeks ago
Yeah, Growing Ranks might be too slow and win-more but if you manage to combine them it can be really good.
Some cheaper options to extract value from the Seance tokens can be sac' outlets like:
Evolutionary Leap, Vampiric Rites, Hidden Stockpile (Seance also activates "revolt") or just Panharmonicon which generates value with all the creatures even without Seance.
A problem that I encountered is being unable to apply pressure against decks (like ramp/combo) that don't care about blockers or lifegain with Satyr Wayfinder/Wall of Omens being my early creatures.
My "real" creatures are basically at 4-cmc with Restoration Angel and Siege Rhino (and the 1x-of Kitchen Finks).
I consider adding Pack Rat for this purpose (over Aven Riftwatcher and Restoration Angel) as it can grow out of control and also feed cards to Seance and copy itself after being brought back by Seance.
What do you think ?
2 weeks ago
So, modern. For casual play modern is pretty much anything goes, but when playing competitively the game is decided by turns 3/4. This means that the majority of spells are as low cost as possible, intended to remove your opponents threats Path to Exile Be a threat itself Lingering Souls or help stall that decision until later turns where something larger can defeat your opponent Remand into Supreme Verdict, for example.
There are four common archetypes- aggro (kill your opponent as quicly as possible playing fast efficient creatures and spells like Lightning Bolt or Goblin Guide with just enough protection to make sure they hit your opponent for that final bit of damage, Midrange which aims to trade 1 card for one card in the first few turns to prevent damage then cast efficient mid-cost creatures in the 3/4/5 slots to win the game Siege Rhino/Thoughtseize style, combo where if you can get the peices onto the battlefield with enough to protect them you just abruptly win (usually turns 4/5/6) eg Melira, Sylvok Outcast/Kitchen Finksetc, and control which is almost all spells to screw over your opponent with a couple of cards that eventually deal enough damage to win, Supreme Verdict/Celestial Colonnade.
I've listed the kind of cards that are the most archetypal examples, but the variation within these strategies permits for an astounding variety of viable decks at every price and in every colour. Certainly most won't win major tournaments, but they can win your local FNM.
This deck is kinda split down the middle in terms of what it wants to be, running high cost combo or control threats like Foundry Champion or Eldrazi Devastator Warstorm Surge and Assemble the Legion, aggro tools like Boros Swiftblade and midrange tools like Gideon's Avenger.
I'd reccomend making this a creature based control deck based around cards like Nearheath Pilgrim, Boros Reckoner, Spitemare, Lightning Bolt, Flame Slash/Roast instead of shock and some bigger spells, aiming to stall the game with infinite life to resolve an Assemble the Legion or Foundry Champion (which oddly can dodge a lot of removal at the moment if you have mana. Weird). The rest of the deck should be dedicated to resisting your opponent 1-shotting you and removing growing threats. Condemn or Oust is cheap, and if you aren't planning on killing your opponent quickly the drawback is minimal (and screws over Death's Shadow). Legion's Initiative provides some combo protection, and should be retained, but Gleam of Battle and Brave the Sands can be replaced with tools to help . Ready / Willing, Ephemeral Shields, Ajani's Presence and Valorous Stance are all good options to enable the combo. With your sideboard it looks like you're trying to transform into aggro, if so look at threats like Keldon Marauders, Monastery Swiftspear, Skullcrack etc. You'll still want a Shattering Spree or similar artifact/enchantment removal in your sideboard for people playing Ensnaring Bridge, affinity (Batterskull decks) and if you're unlucky hexproof with Worship.
All told, good luck, happy testing and have fun.
2 weeks ago
krackhour: Tarmogoyf has been reprinted twice and the price has gone up each time.