Gargos, Vicious Watcher
Legendary Creature — Hydra
Hydra spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell, Gargos, Vicious Watcher fights up to one target creature you don't control.
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|Core Set 2020 (M20)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Gargos, Vicious Watcher Discussion
6 days ago
2 weeks ago
You don't have a purely aggro strategy. Why not give that a try?
Yuriko can be fun ninjutsu-ing sneaky ninjas. Build around cheap unblockable/flying creatures, ninjas, and big CMC spells. Can be built fairly cheaply with Yuriko being the most expensive card, but some of the better ninja's can start to cost $.
Krenko is more straight forward. Goblins are cheap. Swing with Goblins.
Gargos is fun if you like big giant stupid trample-ly hydras. Oh, also fun if you like him just wrecking your opponents creatures. Seem him built as an interesting enchantress commander. I would prefer a hybrid enchantess and hydra build though. Bonus with Gargos is that your mana base is super cheap so you may be able to splurge on better hydras.
2 weeks ago
If your looking for cuts then here's my 8 recommendations:
Capricopian Flavor win but it often won't hit the opponent you want to hit.
Deepglow Skate One shot effect you don't need.
Gargos, Vicious Watcher Great card. However, you running 9 other hydras (excluding your commander who doesn't really benefit). Also, you don't have many self-targeting effects. Not enough support to keep.
Manascape Refractor If you have more land tutors to copy nykthos or coffers maybe keep but otherwise cut. It also comes in tapped which hurts.
Vorel of the Hull Clade If you have infinite mana or just a ton of mana then his affect is nice but not needed.
Biomass Mutation If you get infinite mana then this is great. Yet, if you have infinite mana you should also be able to win with something else or just start making infinitely large Hydras.
Winding Constrictor Incrementally helps. This seems like a harder cut but your hydra's should be big enough on their own without the 1 extra counter.
Hope that helps. I get it with the tutors. I personally don't like running a bunch of tutors in EDH and even more so dislike the idea of spending a ton of cash on them. But, they do make things more consistent and faster (which I thought was more of a goal due to description) so I recommended them.
Cutting sucks, especially when your down to the last few cards. I don't know your play style or play group so take the cuts recs with a grain of salt.
Best of luck. I like the how the deck looks so far and it should be fun to play no matter what ends up being cut.
3 weeks ago
Here are some recent examples of 3-pip legendaries:
Kogla, the Titan Ape - 7/6, fights, protects itself
Gargos, Vicious Watcher - 8/7, vigilance, Hydra synergies, fights
Atemsis, All-Seeing - 4/5, flies, win the game trigger. Slightly overcosted stats for a more powerful ability.
Green nowadays likes to have /over/statted legendaries /with/ good ETB triggers or synergies. Since Kompyras is in green and has a mixed ETB (requires build-around to be great, can have downside), and no way to protect itself, I think you can get away with something like: 7/7, trample, menace.
The other comparison is of course the Titans, since you have an ETB+attack trigger, but at 3 pips of 3 colors of mana, vs. mono-colored, this is a worthwhile buff.
BTW, just noticed the flavor text. Nice!
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hey, nice start with a high budget.
Sultai is the best color combination for ramp, tutors and draw in Commander. My advice with a $700+ budget is to take more advantage of these. There's nothing wrong with a few Hydras, but most of them are the lackluster cards in the deck. Zaxara being a four drop can benefit from more fast ramp especially one drop mana dorks.
Carpet of Flowers is powerful repeatable ramp in multiplayer Commander. Mystery Booster Card set version is down to $15.
More tutors and repeatable draw sources let you cut some subpar X spells instead tutor for and/or draw into the better spells. Mystic Remora and Rhystic Study are two of the best sources of repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander. More one drop mana dorks and Zaxara creates tokens is good as fodder for Diabolic Intent.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Kodama's Reach
- Primordial Hydra
- Protean Hydra
- Vastwood Hydra
- Gargos, Vicious Watcher
- Hungering Hydra
- Genesis Hydra
- Icy Blast
- Profane Command
- Overwhelming Stampede
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Like it, but needs a Gargos, Vicious Watcher if you plan to go hydras.
1 month ago
A couple things with this.
1) hi I'm Tom, I've played Magic for ~7 years and I've been teaching new players for a little over a year now.
2) now onto the deck. You have a couple weird picks that I want to discuss.
Elvish Archdruid seems an odd choice. The odds are it comes down on turn 3 and very, very rarely generates more than two mana- sometimes just . You'd probably be better off with Elvish Mystic. It'll let you play a little faster.
Parallel Lives,Enlightened Tutor, and Endless Ranks of the Dead are all functional only when Open the Graves is in play. Having two cards that synergize with one another is good, encouraged, even, so long as they slot naturally into the deck. However, none of these four cards support your hydra theme at all. You could fill these slots with more ramp or more hydras to make this deck more consistent and focused.
4) if you want to overhaul the deck completely, go Blue/Green- it has excellent ramp and +1/+1 counter payoffs.