Hidden Herbalists

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Format Legality
Standard Legal
Modern Legal
Frontier Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Vintage Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Aether Revolt Uncommon

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Hidden Herbalists

Creature — Human Druid

Revolt — When Hidden Herbalists enters the battlefield, if a permanent you controlled left the battlefield this turn, add to your mana pool.

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Hidden Herbalists Discussion

landofMordor on Last Chance to Solve Zada/Mirrorwing

5 days ago

I'm thinking Naya zoo/stompy has the best chances here, where Zada and Mirrorwing are value engines at the top end of the curve.

Sylvan Advocate is still legal, along with Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Bloodrage Brawler, Narnam Renegade, Beastcaller Savant, Glory-Bound Initiate, Greenwheel Liberator, Hanweir Militia Captain  Flip, Hidden Herbalists, Prowling Serpopard, Kari Zev, Skyship Raider, Honored Crop-Captain, and Samut, Voice of Dissent as a Zada enabler...you get the grind against control by Expedite-ing or Fling-ing your board in response to shenanigans, and the combat tricks ensure you have the upper hand in any combat with midrange or aggro.

Essentially, I suggest Naya because it's able to drop a meaningful creature every turn before Zada/Mirrorwing, which is what the deck needs in order to win on T5-7. It's also got a robust enough suite of instants that you can cast responsively, such as Blossoming Defense or Tandem Tactics, to be versatile against anything the opponent does to interfere. Lastly, the zoo foundations of that deck are strong enough to be a decent matchup even if the opponent manages to neuter your two build-around cards.

I wish I had a brew for you, but I literally just came up with that. I have a deck @ One-Punch Woman (Primer) that's essentially a zoo deck with Zada as one win-con, so I have some experience with her potency. I'd be happy, however, to provide feedback on any list you brew up.

Rednefed on GW Revolting Swarm

1 month ago

I'm not sure what you're trying to do with Cartouche of Solidarity, or what it adds to the deck... I'd pull those out, and remove a single Cast Out, Hidden Herbalists, and Narnam Renegade each, so you can increase how many of your main engine cards you have. I'd suggest something along the lines of a full playset of Aethergeode Miner, Greenbelt Rampager, Greenwheel Liberator, and Solemn Recruit, and 3 Oketra the True as they are the backbone of your deck, and you want to draw them as often as possible.

Otherwise, unless you already own them, I'd drop the Scattered Groves in favor of Tranquil Expanse.

For a sideboard, I'd look at board wipe spells, along with some spot removal. Beyond that, Consulate Turret, or Fabrication Module might be amusing in conjunction with Greenbelt Rampager, but that would need some testing.

Force_of_Willb on 60 Creatures Dot Deck

1 month ago

Wheres Burning-Tree Emissary? I feel this deck could also use another 1 drop mana dork or you can go the routes of

Other creatures that generate mana when ETB: Akki Rockspeaker, Priest of Gix, Priest of Urabrask, Coal Stoker, Hidden Herbalists or Mardu Warshrieker.

or other tinderwall creatures: Blood Pet, Generator Servant, Nest Invader, Pawn of Ulamog, Skirk Prospector, or Blisterpod to help generate mana.

No2rious on Selesnya Stomp

1 month ago

bellz76, thanks for the comment. I will deffinatally have to look into those and where I can fit them.

I am on the fence about Unbridled Growth, but it would have helped out when I was top decking.

I did find out this weekend that I was weak against tokens. I was able to go to my side board and use Dissenter's Deliverance to slow them down enough for me to get a win.

I am thinking of adding in something to blink my cards. I had some times when I could have really used Renegade Rallier or Hidden Herbalists revolt to finish the game.

sylvannos on The World Ends with Clues

2 months ago

@2gherkins: Holy shit I didn't even think of Urabrask the Hidden. Waaaay better than Craterhoof Behemoth.

Wall of Roots functions like half of a Burning-Tree Emissary. It's like a better Akki Rockspeaker. I've now removed Sakura-Tribe Elder in favor of it. You were right about how awkward Sakura-Tribe Elder gets. It's only good when there's a Tireless Tracker.

I should also give credit where it's due. This deck isn't entirely original. It's based on an old Standard deck, which you can find here:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/cards-are-playing-not-banning-2005-12-02

The way the combo originally worked was to ramp into a Warp World, just like this one. However, at the time, Hunted Troll, his buddies, and Forbidden Orchard worked differently than they do now. Tokens' owners were whoever made the tokens, even if those tokens were put under an opponent's control. So even though your opponent controlled the faeries from Hunted Troll, you were their owner. So when you cast Warp World, you got 5 extra permanents from Hunted Troll. If you were ramping with Forbidden Orchard, you got even more permanents.

They changed the rules for token ownership back in Magic 2010. This was an intentional nerf since Warp World was in M10.

Anywho, I'm still goldfishing the deck. Still trying to figure out how to draw cards. Adding blue for Spreading Seas was my first choice, but you can't Hidden Herbalists into it. Abundant Growth, Nylea's Presence, Oath of Jace, Shielding Plax, Unbridled Growth, Weirding Wood, and Era of Innovation all crossed my mind as well.

@aekrusty: I'll have a look!

Master_Of_Obscure_Blue_Spells on Renegade Rallier in Modern?

2 months ago

@Rothgar: But Standard seems like a great place for him. Yahenni's Expertise into Renegade Rallier into Hidden Herbalists gives me shivers.

@EpicFreddi: Thanks! I really appreciate it! Like I said before, he would be great in an Abzan shell. Maybe Abzan Revolt? Too bad I sold my two copies of Fatal Push... But the idea still has a lot of potential, esp. with Cast Out.

sylvannos on Need help ending the world

2 months ago

So I've recently begun to play around with the idea of using one of my favorite combo cards of all time, Warp World. I loved the card when it was in Standard with Heartbeat of Spring.

Part of the reason I've been toying with the idea is Hidden Herbalists and Tireless Tracker. They offer more ETB effects that give lots of value and add to the consistency of casting Warp World.

Behold, my hilarious new brew:



The issue I've had has been speeding it up, while maintaining a healthy dose of recursion. One of the things I've noticed about this deck is how much Warp World functions like a giant Seething Song.

I'm thinking the deck needs a third color. Blue is my first choice because it gives Coiling Oracle and Spreading Seas. However, a strong case could be made for White or Black because then you have access to things like Horizon Canopy or Shaman of the Pack.

Has anyone else tried Warp World in Modern? How does it compare to decks like Tooth and Nail or Scapeshift?

Styrupp on Green Landfall Hydras

2 months ago

Start by removing Sylvan Scrying and all Seek the Wilds what are you going to search for a Forest?? better to remove and get higher chance to draw a land. Natural Connection is good you need more instant speed spells which ramps and good synergy with landfall.

Suggestions: Kodama's Reach,Caravan Vigil, Cultivate problem is that they are sorcery speed, Harrow may be a thing for the dubble landfall.

2x more Evolving Wild for synergy with landfall is a ++.

Reclaiming Vines remove it, use a more efficient one, like Nature's Claim,Reclamation Sage or Acidic Slime. (Natural State is ok)

Remove your Titanic Growth,Giant Growth and Aspect of Hydra but keep Swell of Growth for landfall.

Remove Somberwald Alpha Hidden Herbalists need to remove creatures to increase your chance to draw your big endgame like Nessian Wilds Ravager and Oran-Rief Hydra.

Remove Loam Larva is just a dead draw Elvish Visionary and Pilgrim's Eye is 100 times better.

Pilgrim's Eye is thinning your deck so you draw endgame cards earlier. Elvish Visionary replacing it self.

Llanowar Empath is an expensive Elvish Visionary i would remove it.

How i would read this deck:Go def early game and then slam huge HYDRAS end game!

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