Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

Legendary Planeswalker — Jace

If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.

+1: Target player mill two cards. Draw a card. (To mill a card, put the top card of your library into your graveyard.)

-8: Draw seven cards. Then if your library has no cards in it, you win the game.

x0100011010x on All players win?

2 months ago

I think that trying to get to a draw through Divine Intervention (clearly how the card is intended to work) is not nearly as interesting as actually trying to make every player win (which would require obviously doing something unintended)

Za above figured out a way to make every player lose the game, which is very related but different imo.

I am sure that "legally" there is some resolution order to this combo I describe below. However, I think it is much more interesting and would be much more surprised than someone just playing Divine Intervention

Most "you win" card (in this article https://draftsim.com/you-win-the-game-mtg/ ) triggers on upkeep or end step, so you couldn't share that victory.

Halo Fountain, Helix Pinnacle, and Maze's Endfoil all let a player win through an ability. But abilities go on the stack and I am not aware (I also didn't even look it up though) of anything that lets you copy abilities for other players.

Curse of Echoes on yourself, then Coalition Victory or Thassa's Oracle would work. Approach of the Second Sun has an annoying clause which prevents copies of it from working for other players. Unfortunately, Coalition Victory would require you giving the other player control of 3-4 creatures and 3-4 lands, so is infeasible. Thassa's Oracle might work if you get their deck down to zero cards (a way is described below), or a few if they have blue.

Twenty-Toed Toad notably lets you win in your attack step. I'm unsure how you would have multiple players attacking in one step. However, I was reviewing all the cards in the link above, and if you cast Ramses, Assassin Lord; enchant Twenty-Toed Toad to be an Assassin; have your opponent gain control of Twenty-Toed Toad (like with Custody Battle and then destroying it, give them 20 +1/+1 counters, and your opponent attacks you: They would win, so you would lose, and you had previously controlled the Assassin Toad, who attacked you this turn, so Ramses makes you win.

Giving everyone Jace, Wielder of Mysteries; or Laboratory Maniac, or copies of them; then casting Leveler and giving copies of them; and then casting something like Burning Inquiry should also work I think. You could have two of Jace/Maniac and cast two Fractured Identity to get that to happen. This route allows even more than 2 players to win.

I mean, if you declare that your objective is to make the game end in a draw... and you do that... then you won, right? Sorta?

If I pulled off either above combo, I would not feel sorta? good, I would feel like I just shattered a fundamental assumption all planeswalkers have made since before the Eldrazi were found, and rejoice

TheoryCrafter on jace commander

2 months ago

Have you considered Mystic Sanctuary? It will allow you to retrieve an instant or sorcery from the graveyard. Also, Have you considered adding Didn't Say Please? It's a functional reprint of Thought Collapse.

Here are some other suggestions I have:

-As you evolve this deck, you should really consider leaning further into the card draw the Jace Planeswalkers offer. This is why I recommend replacing Search for Azcanta with Jace's Erasure.

-If/When you can afford it, replace Augur Of Bolas with Thassa's Oracle. While it may be a tad more difficult to get an instant or sorcery from your library, not only it will also allow you access to other card types, but you have an extra alternate win card in the event you lose Jace, Wielder of Mysteries.

-One of Mill's biggest weaknesses is how it can feed the graveyards of opponents with strong graveyard interaction. Which is why I recommend replacing Field of Ruin with Scavenger Grounds and Negate with Grip of Amnesia.

I hope this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

Djh3max on cEDH upgrade ideas for First …

4 months ago

Hi all,

I have been working for a while on my first cEDH deck and I am getting to a point where I know there is room for improvement but I am not sure where. I am working on a semi budget so I have made certain choices so far to reflect that. Here is the deck list:

https://moxfield.com/decks/K8ynmFMH8UiyiHjr5GCfUw

The deck aims to win with the food chain cast from exile combo for infinite mana to infinitely cascade through the deck with The First Sliver and casting Lavabelly Sliver to ping the opponents to death with the infinite etb triggers from the commander. The secondary win con is through cards like Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact to exile the deck and win with either Laboratory Maniac, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, or Thassa's Oracle. The rest of the deck consists of tutors to find my combo pieces, recursion spells in case I lose a piece, and counter spells. I also found that Transmute mechanic worked for extra tutors as well.

I know the land base needs a ton of work but i found that the filter/pain/fast lands were excellent budget friendly options. As far as the main deck goes, I am thinking that the first card to go should be Rhystic Study since it feels too slow for the pay off. I can consistently win on turn 5 with this list but I want to get that down to a consistent turn 4 win.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated thank you!!

Flarhoon13 on Game of Thrones: Sylvia Brightspear's Dragons

5 months ago

Oct 25 Game of Thrones: Khorvath Brightflame and Sylvia Brightspear's other Dragons lost to Jesse's Surrak Dragonclaw deck's Primal Surge. A long 5-player game that Logan left early, down to 9 life, his Web of Inertia and goading commander Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainerfoil (Clan Crafterfoil background) definitely kept him alive and impacted the game. I had a giant air force and solid Knights on the ground. (Sylvia, White Knight and Paladin en-Vec team blocked Surrak Dragonclaw to kill Surrak Dragonclaw when Logan used a Threaten spell to attack me with Jesse's commander.) Dawson on Jared Carthalion with Umori, the Collector Companion agreed not to hit my board with Vraska, Golgari Queen but Ba played his commander, Morophon, the Boundless, named Avatar and put out Child of Alara. Vraska, Golgari Queen -3 destroyed Child of Alara and with it, about 7 of my knights and dragons. Jesse though, Primal Surged and the other instant or sorcery in his deck, Mystical Tutor, was about 5th from the bottom. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries and more than enough card draw triggers got Jesse the win.

Icaruskid on Guy leaned up on a wall flipping a coin

1 year ago

This looks like fun! You are inspiring me to build my own Yusri deck!

Ferrous Lake and Inventors' Fair might be handy lands. If you ever need another wincon Jace, Wielder of Mysteries would fit in great to your Planeswalker slot.

legendofa on How to combo?

1 year ago

https://scryfall.com/search?as=gridℴ=name&q=type%3Ainsect+commander%3ABG+%28game%3Apaper%29+legal%3Acommander

This is a list of Commander-legal insects in color identity.

https://scryfall.com/search?as=gridℴ=name&q=oracle%3AChangeling+commander%3ABG+%28game%3Apaper%29+legal%3Acommander

This one is Changeling cards, for some extra fill.

Assuming you somehow get all lands out of your deck, since you don't have access to for Laboratory Maniac, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, or Thassa's Oracle, you need to win before you draw another card, or reshuffle your graveyard and make it your library. Gaea's Blessing and similar cards can help. Concordant Crossroads gives creatures haste, and some cards in these colors reward you for milling/putting cards into your graveyard.

Are you looking for any specific eff cts, or just anything that might be helpful?

ToonDeMeister on Simic Prime Speaker

1 year ago

I'm gonna test it out tonight. I think it's the best version I could make using my collection (Some cards are already in other decks, so if avoidable I would like to keep them in there). Small doubts on some cards though. Maybe its better to put Tormod's Crypt in, so that I can draw or get the creatures back that I sacrificed, but I don't know what to take out. And Maybe 40 lands is a bit much, online I read a lot of people have 38, some ramp decks even 34-36. But some of my ramp is about playing extra land from my hand, so not sure. Also I wouldn't know what to change.

Also my best card draw instants and sorcery's are in my Jace, Wielder of Mysteries deck. But I think with cards like Narset, Parter of Veils , Elder Gargaroth and Beast Whisperer and such in the deck that it will work out.

stevezsiga on Notorious SRC

1 year ago

Also, Castle Vantress allows you to scry, potentially mid to late game after any tutor gets you your win-con on top, thus then putting said win-con on the bottom with Castle. You can then Demonic Consultation, essentially removing your library from the game like Leveler. Then just Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Laboratory Maniac for the W.

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